Callipygous Posted October 8, 2001 Share Posted October 8, 2001 I am referring to Atari blue label carts that came in the small blue boxes during the XEGS period. Has anybody seen a title other than these? RX8031 Donkey Kong (ex rare!) RX8039 Eastern Front RX8063 Rescue on Fractalus RX8064 Ballblazer RX8077 Battlezone RX8078 Star Raiders II RX8079 Food Fight RX8081 Blue Max RX8082 Lode Runner RX8083 David's Midnight Magic RX8084 Hardball RX8085 Fight Night RX8086 Barnyard Blaster RX8087 Bug Hunt RX8088 Crossbow RX8089 Desert Falcon RX8090 GATO RX8091 Flight Simulator II RX8092 Archon RX8093 One-on-One Basketball RX8095 Karateka RX8096 Choplifter! RX8098 Summer Games RX8099 Ace of Aces RX8101 Dark Chambers RX8102 Crystal Castles (ex rare!) RX8103 Mario Bros. RX8104 Crime Buster RX8108 Necromancer RX8109 Airball RX8113 Thunderfox RX8114 Into the Eagle's Nest BTW- That's 32 altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 I know of at least two others, but I don't know if they exist beyond the prototype or not. Atari Explorer magazine did "previews" of the games. The two I remember for sure are Deflector and Xenophobe. Deflector I believe was a sort of chess game where you positioned mirrors and prisms and shot a laser cannon trying to shoot your opponents cannon around obstructions or "pieces" using the mirrors&prisms. The graphics looked good and I think it might even be available for file download off the net. Xenophobe should need no introduction, as I recall it looked like the 7800 version with the natural drop in color. I vaguely remember other titles being previewed in that issue of A.E. or others around that time. I may still have the issue, so I'll check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 Of those 32 carts, I only have 22 of them, plus the "XE Demo Cartridge", although I'm not sure how authentic it is (it has a silver label with blue printing, I believe). I also have a Football in an XE cart (it has a gray label). The carts I need from the above list are: Donkey Kong Eastern Front Lode Runner Crossbow Karateka Choplifter Summer Games Dark Chambers Crime Buster Thunderfox According to Andrew Krieg's Atari 8-bit cartridge list (which he seems to update on a fairly regular basis), Xenophobe was never released in cartridge form and Deflector isn't even in his list. The XE Demo Cart is listed, though. ..Al [ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: Albert ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 B&C sells copies of Deflector he made from the original prototype. I think Bruce also has a Xenophobe prototype but he misplaced it somewhere. He was having trouble making copies for some reason (same with Mat Mania). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted October 10, 2001 Author Share Posted October 10, 2001 The XE Demo is real. Atari sent these to dealers. But, as noted, its a silver label and technically not a released cart, so I did not include it in the list. There are also grey case, silver label carts. Football, Jungle Hunt, Pole Position etc were re-issued for the XEGS in that form, but I wasn't referring to those either. I have the Explorer with the Xenophobe and Deflector reviews. It sounds like they were already available! Unfortunately, they were never released, AFAIK. BTW- Anyone have the RX8xxx catalog #s for those? Part of the reason for my original question: In the label variation section, Andrew Krieg lists: Jungle Hunt grey case, blue label Moon Patrol grey case, blue label Super Breakout grey case, blue RX8006 label Never seen or heard of these. Perhaps someone got them mixed up with the grey case, silver carts? Anybody seen them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 11, 2001 Share Posted October 11, 2001 Don't know about Deflektor but Xenophobe's number is RX8118. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 11, 2001 Share Posted October 11, 2001 I too, found the article and it does seem to portray them as already out, with screen shots and review. Also though, I noticed that this is the NOV/DEC '86 issue and I don't believe the XEGS was released until '87. So these carts, had they been released, may or may not have been cased and packaged as XE carts. It's too bad they weren't released with labels, box&manual, regardless of the style (XE or pre). I do think I'll pick them up from Bruce though, now that I've been reminded of them. He's got a few other never -released 8-bit/XEGS carts too. So does Video61 for that matter and I wouldn't be surprised if Best E. has some as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 11, 2001 Share Posted October 11, 2001 Never mind about what I wrote above, I discovered that I had a couple of magazine covers mixed up and the articles are indeed in a 1990 issue of Atari Explorer and probably would ahve been two of the last games mad for the XEGS had they been released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted October 11, 2001 Share Posted October 11, 2001 I thought they released Xenophobe? I do remember having it on a real 8-bit in disk form... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 11, 2001 Share Posted October 11, 2001 It was probably a bootleg like The Last Starfighter disk. I know it was never commercially released in cart form. Anyone have any screen shots? I'd like to see what it looks like. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted October 11, 2001 Author Share Posted October 11, 2001 Can scan it when I get time. (Gunstar, feel free to do it if convenient.) I wonder if they actually had a cart or disk of the program for review. Or was it just Atari hype. Okay I think its 32 XE carts. Will consider the other three label variations listed as mistakes. Well, unless one shows up . This thread mentions gray case, silver labels. Sometime, I'll try to compile a list of those and bug everybody again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Kay Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 There is also a review of Deflektor in GamePro Magazine... although I don't have the issue at my house right now (I lent it to Curt Vendel) I believe it was reviewed in GamePro in 1990. Cheers! Joey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 Does anyone have the B&C Deflektor cart? Is is complete? Any good? Deflektor was shown at CES in 1989 (June?). Atari also showed Xenophobe and Midimmaze (early version). Deflector, Xenophobe, Tower Toppler, Ninja Golf and Commando were all promised by the end of 1989. Have never seen Xenophobe at all, but you would think a nearly completed version exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I have Deflektor and it seems complete. It's alot of fun, but very hard. As for the others... Tower Toppler - I believe they found this prototype, but for some reason it was B&W only. I know there was a strange story about this like they found them in a warehouse in England or something. Midi Maze - I've seen and played it (I know someone who has the original proto). It was really strange, basically it's doom with smiley faces. I believe it was released on the SNES as Faceball or something like that. It looked damn good for a XEGS game. Mean 18 - Ick! I know someone who has several EPROMs for this game, and it sucks big time! The graphics look like an Atari 400/800 16K game, and the load time was horrendous. I can't believe the game I saw was ready for release! I've never seen Xenophobe, Ninja Golf, or Commando, but Bruce told me had had Xenophobe so I believe him. I thought he had Commando and Mat Mania too, but I might be mistaken. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callipygous Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 quote: Tower Toppler - I believe they found this prototype, but for some reason it was B&W only. I know there was a strange story about this like they found them in a warehouse in England or something. Well, the program is by Hewson/US Gold in the UK, so that part is not surprising. The story, IIRC, was that Atari UK bought the rights. Then Atari US wanted a cartridge for XEGS instead of a tape as originally planned. They also changed the name which was originally "Nebulus" (sp?). Another one that should have been totally finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Both the cart and ROM image of Tower Toppler that I have are incomplete as far as I can tell - there is garbage graphics for the "flying" aliens... The game is in Antic F, for the most part, with some multicolor terrain in the "fish" stages (which are truly awful since the sub and fish are limited to the default mode 8 blue upper section!). So on PAL is mostly monochrome, but on NTSC it has Artifacted colors (pretty ugly both ways). Its slow compared to the C64 original, since the 8bit version is done totally with software sprites and the C64 version uses hardware sprites, and LOTS of color too :-( Overall 8bit TT is a bit naff and I can see why it was not released - they should have done it MUCH better, and could have for sure... sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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