+5-11under Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 @tlindner brought one of these to PRGE for a few hours: https://github.com/hoglet67/RGBtoHDMI/wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stushug Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/9/2024 at 9:30 AM, -^CrossBow^- said: Or you can add one of @the_crayon_king's RGB setups into a model 1 or model 2, pair it up with a Rad2x and have an original console with HDMI? That is how I use mine now. I added @the_crayon_king's RBG setup to my original model 1 and it made a HUGE difference. Highly recommended! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 My Modded Intellivision 2609 GBS-C A10 RGB/ HDMI/ SCART scaler (I love this thing) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 hours ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: My Modded Intellivision 2609 GBS-C A10 RGB/ HDMI/ SCART scaler (I love this thing) Is that a Tim W. SCART cable? I've only ever seen them used with 2600 RGB setups although I've only build that cable twice for two different clients in the past and after that just advised folks to buy 8-pin SCARTs from RGC in the UK so I didn't have to build them at that point LOL! I just routed the audio from his 2600 RGB board back to the correct pins using a different breakout PCB on the 8-pin connector end. Never understood why he separated them as I've never heard any audio issues between his setup and those I routed to the 8-pin anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: Is that a Tim W. SCART cable? I've only ever seen them used with 2600 RGB setups although I've only build that cable twice for two different clients in the past and after that just advised folks to buy 8-pin SCARTs from RGC in the UK so I didn't have to build them at that point LOL! I just routed the audio from his 2600 RGB board back to the correct pins using a different breakout PCB on the 8-pin connector end. Never understood why he separated them as I've never heard any audio issues between his setup and those I routed to the 8-pin anyway? I believe so. Its been years since i purchased it, but i do remember paying alot. I never used the Scart but have tested with RGB. I mainly use the HDMI because of the crispness & clarity! Not sure why audio is seperated either. Just more wires to me. Ultimately doesnt matter as i am planning to add the scaler under the shell to conceal it. Im just not sure how im going to do the power cords? What do you think? Should i leave 2 power cords (1 for system/ 1 for scaler)... or combine into 1? Also may add a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 24 minutes ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: I believe so. Its been years since i purchased it, but i do remember paying alot. I never used the Scart but have tested with RGB. I mainly use the HDMI because of the crispness & clarity! Not sure why audio is seperated either. Just more wires to me. Ultimately doesnt matter as i am planning to add the scaler under the shell to conceal it. Im just not sure how im going to do the power cords? What do you think? Should i leave 2 power cords (1 for system/ 1 for scaler)... or combine into 1? Also may add a fan. You want to shove the GBS into the INTV? I should be possible, but to be on the safe side you might consider adding a separate power input jack off the back for the GBS. While I'm sure it just runs on +5 it likely wants about an 1amp of current draw available to it. That said, it might be possible to swap out the original 7805 on the power board with a beefier one, but I'd have to see what the current draw off the one in there now is just from the Intellivision side of things. Or, you could swap in a DC-DC switching regulator to drop that current requirement down quite a bit. Using a 2A output variant of one like the Traco 2-2450s I like to use, might be enough to handle it all without generating any extra heat in the process. Only heat left would be the twin 3906s near the CPU, +12v regulator (doesn't get as hot as the 7805 does), the power resistor and of course the transformer itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 27 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: You want to shove the GBS into the INTV? I should be possible, but to be on the safe side you might consider adding a separate power input jack off the back for the GBS. While I'm sure it just runs on +5 it likely wants about an 1amp of current draw available to it. That said, it might be possible to swap out the original 7805 on the power board with a beefier one, but I'd have to see what the current draw off the one in there now is just from the Intellivision side of things. Or, you could swap in a DC-DC switching regulator to drop that current requirement down quite a bit. Using a 2A output variant of one like the Traco 2-2450s I like to use, might be enough to handle it all without generating any extra heat in the process. Only heat left would be the twin 3906s near the CPU, +12v regulator (doesn't get as hot as the 7805 does), the power resistor and of course the transformer itself. The GBS already has its own power source/cord. I was more worried about the heat inside. Do you think a fan is necessary?... even a small one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 18 minutes ago, Psycho Stormtrooper- Rog said: The GBS already has its own power source/cord. I was more worried about the heat inside. Do you think a fan is necessary?... even a small one. Quite possibly yes. But I thought were you asking about ways to shove it inside and not have to use a second power connection for it. But if you already plan on that, then I would either add a small fan in there somewhere or look to replacing both of the VRs with dc-dc switching type to help reduce some of the heat to perhaps compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) The last component mod I did with @the_crayon_king's Baked Potato (Component or RGB) I experimented with HDMI. I ran the Component signal directly to Electron Shepherd's AWESOME analog2HDMI chip (https://electron-shepherd.com/collections/all/products/analog2hdmi) and it worked great! It only took 5 wires (Y, Pb, Pr, 5V, Audio) to very easy to solder pads (I put headpins on them on the baked potato to make it easy to work with). Looked beautiful, crispy, played well with my bench TV. I decided to put one into my personal unit that also has a Baked Potato. The issue as I considered doing it widely is that there would probably need to be an upscaler/line doubler in the mix to make it widely compatible with most newer TVs. The base output timing is going to be 720(1440)x240p which is the the standard video timing for 240p HDMI signals via the CEA standard (as explained to me by Shane at Electron Shepherd). No problem for the folks who have a Retrotink 4K or a set that supports it, but most won't and instead likely will have a bottom end support of 480p on HDMI. Just wanted to share what I had found. If you do have a set that supports it, pick one up, it was great direct wire solution (INTV -> Baked Potato -> 5 wires to analog2HDMI) Edited February 5 by EdgeFaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 1/14/2024 at 8:41 AM, the_crayon_king said: Uh, yeah I am currently in the middle of packing up to move. I had put up all my soldering stuff up. Since I am fixing up the house I am going to that is where the majority of my time has been. I just ordered parts to do another 100 of these. Idk how long that will take to come in. If I had more encoders laying around (BH7236AF) I could do this now. Honestly never thought these would sell for this long. I'll love you forever if you get some time for a few more RGB/YPbPr boards too :D. No rush though, congrats on the new place and best of luck getting moved and settled! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_crayon_king Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/4/2024 at 9:55 PM, EdgeFaction said: I'll love you forever if you get some time for a few more RGB/YPbPr boards too :D. No rush though, congrats on the new place and best of luck getting moved and settled! I have my little station set up again. I made one kit just to make sure everything worked. I made the Orange Peel board which is the one with RGB/Composite/S-Video. IDK where the Baked Potato RGB/YPbPr kits are packed up in my house. Nor my component cable which I would need to test them. Anyway, I am ramping up to make another run and day now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 21 hours ago, the_crayon_king said: I have my little station set up again. I made one kit just to make sure everything worked. I made the Orange Peel board which is the one with RGB/Composite/S-Video. IDK where the Baked Potato RGB/YPbPr kits are packed up in my house. Nor my component cable which I would need to test them. Anyway, I am ramping up to make another run and day now. Awesome! I'm looking forward to using my new mini din mounts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/12/2024 at 2:22 PM, the_crayon_king said: Anyway, I am ramping up to make another run and day now. I’m going to have to pick one of these up when you get settled and caught up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZillaRUSH Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 On 2/14/2024 at 10:01 AM, nurmix said: I’m going to have to pick one of these up when you get settled and caught up. Same here...Im in when you are ready. Keep me posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 2/12/2024 at 4:22 PM, the_crayon_king said: I have my little station set up again. I made one kit just to make sure everything worked. I made the Orange Peel board which is the one with RGB/Composite/S-Video. IDK where the Baked Potato RGB/YPbPr kits are packed up in my house. Nor my component cable which I would need to test them. Anyway, I am ramping up to make another run and day now. Thanks for getting these out. Picked up a couple sets and will get more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radventure Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 On 2/13/2024 at 8:22 AM, the_crayon_king said: I have my little station set up again. I made one kit just to make sure everything worked. I made the Orange Peel board which is the one with RGB/Composite/S-Video. IDK where the Baked Potato RGB/YPbPr kits are packed up in my house. Nor my component cable which I would need to test them. Anyway, I am ramping up to make another run and day now. Hoping to have a functional II soon. Will be another Orange Peel sale as soon as that happens 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I'm waiting on one more set of caps and then I'll be working on a couple more IIs. I've been doing purely Component, but this time I'll do S-Video in the existing opening, Composite/Audio through a 3.5mm breakout, and one I'll do HDMI powered by the RGB outputs. I'll recap (most of them are on the power supply), and do the shorter power down resister installed. @the_crayon_king thanks for getting a batch out there! I'd be ready to buy more as you have time. Also I revisited some of the spacer boards you made, thanks for those. @-^CrossBow^- your spacers are really nice too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 1/15/2024 at 4:42 PM, 5-11under said: @tlindner brought one of these to PRGE for a few hours: https://github.com/hoglet67/RGBtoHDMI/wiki i use RGBtoHDMI too for "perfect pixel" HDMI video for my Intellivisions (and other dozens of retro systems). Only 6 wires to solder on back of STIC IC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 👇👇👇👇 20240320_185640.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 @Crash7 Looks like you have the smoothing option turned on through your Rad2x. I'm not personally a fan of that look and prefer the sharp corner pixels myself hehe. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: @Crash7 Looks like you have the smoothing option turned on through your Rad2x. I'm not personally a fan of that look and prefer the sharp corner pixels myself hehe. I just hooked it up I didn't touch so it must have been that way when I hooked it up. Thanks buddy. 🕹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 48 minutes ago, Crash7 said: I just hooked it up I didn't touch so it must have been that way when I hooked it up. Thanks buddy. 🕹️ No worries! I was just surprised to see that it looked like it was enabled since most people I know, aren't a fan of that rounded smoothed look on their the retro games. There are some cases where it might improve the image quality but it looks way too artificial to me on vintage/retro consoles. But again only my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/21/2024 at 9:49 AM, -^CrossBow^- said: @Crash7 Looks like you have the smoothing option turned on through your Rad2x. I'm not personally a fan of that look and prefer the sharp corner pixels myself hehe. I was going to say the same thing -- it seems to have a smoothing filter. Other than that, the colours look great. Is there a way to remove the smoothing filter? -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, DZ-Jay said: I was going to say the same thing -- it seems to have a smoothing filter. Other than that, the colours look great. Is there a way to remove the smoothing filter? -dZ. Yeah the Rad2x has a switch to turn that on/off. Usually it is off by default, but it looks like their Rad2x arrived with it turned on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Hey @the_crayon_king. Thank you for your recent batches of Orange Peel! I had a lot of luck doing some unique requests including having an HDMI port (with the knowledge that they needed a TV that supported 240p or a HDMI line doubler.) Do you think you'll have more kits out there in the future? Looking forward to getting more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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