e1will Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I bought my first 7800 cartridge today, and it plays great on the 2600+. I had never played a 7800 game on an actual console before; back in the day none of my friends had a 7800. Their post-2600 consoles of choice were Colecos and Nintendos. Now I’m kicking myself for not taking advantage of the “last chance sale” and picking up B*nq, the other 7800 game now on my wishlist. 13 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSword Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Congratz! 🥳 I got it a few weeks ago as well to play on my 2600+. It's a rather good shooter game. I just noticed today an announcement of Atari re-releasing some other 7800 games and I'll be getting a couple of those too (Fatal Run and Ninja Golf. I already managed to get a cartridge of Food Fight and that's a cute fun game). 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 @karri Sent me a proto 7800 cart of a proof of concept R-Type. I just sat there and marvelled at it thinking that this is exactly the direction 2600+ games need to go. Problem is making it a commercial reality. 10 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorkbot Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I bought my first three Atari 7800 games today! Food Fight, Ninja Golf, and Fatal Run... the new ones Atari is making. I held off buying any on ebay because I knew today was coming, haha. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Ben from Plaion said: @karri Sent me a proto 7800 cart of a proof of concept R-Type. I just sat there and marvelled at it thinking that this is exactly the direction 2600+ games need to go. Problem is making it a commercial reality. If Plaion (and Atari) mostly needs to invest in selling as many 2600+ units (and extras) as possible, perhaps there exist firms/companies that would have an licensing and releasing carts, as their priority number one would could do it? It would be a win-win situation if it came to the point where more people bought the Atari 2600+ in order to get the new games published by the other firm(s)/compani(s). Both would sell more of what they invested in, and accumulate attention to their brands and as such their other/future products, staying relevant in the retrogame scene. If its mostly about cryptic and semi-forgotten license-agreement details, then thats of course another problem. How to sell much and increasingly more? Startinc with providing the best stuff one can afford and own, is a good start. A wide-ranging 2600+, playing all sorts of 2600 and 7800 games is good hardware-start. Food Fight, Ninja Golf and Fatal Run are very good software starting points. If other companies had joined to license titles - original and new - from Namco, Capcom, Taito, Irem, not all revenue or just whatever-money-made would accumulate in one place, but all would benefit if created growing interest. Atari would benefit from growing interest and attention, so would Plaion, so would any firm/company doing licensed runs. They would get retrogamers eyes look hard and keen in their direction. And that may come in handy if you want sell retro-stuff longterm, or just get back in the headlines and gaming spotlights. Unfortunately comebacks may need some investment-time. Later, if such synergy would come to work, one may see things like 7800-new-games compilations released for Steam, Console and Evercade, being published under one major-publisher, or as a joint effort-publishing to ‘conquer’ more ground. Some of it a bit novel: officially licensed ports or franchise-games for old retro-systems. (Indie-games for retro-systems are being done already, but may also be an avenue not to ignore). I’m saying stuff like this will immediatly generate bucketloads of money, but could generate lots of attention in a direction somewhat unexpected. As for gamers? I think they just often head for quality in gaming-experience. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: @karri Sent me a proto 7800 cart of a proof of concept R-Type. I just sat there and marvelled at it thinking that this is exactly the direction 2600+ games need to go. Problem is making it a commercial reality. That would be a tough one as clearly Irem rights are all over the shop with Hamster having some titles for their Arcade Archives series and RType itself being part of twofer with RType II called RType Dimensions and then RType Final being published by NIS. Personally I’d go for more obscure stuff. Berzerk was a good move; another good Stern game was Lost Tomb - I think that was a twin stick game with a bomb button? Should be able to do a 7800 Robotron deal with that: support twin stick or move and shoot with button 1 and bomb button two. I also really like the old Exidy games which had okay outings on 2600, but would definitely benefit from a 7800 upgrade: Mouse Trap and Venture. Their third big arcade release was Pepper II (another maze game), but that only got a Colecovision release. Universal might be a good one - surprised Hamster hasn’t done Arcade Archives for the Mr. Do! games or Ladybug yet. Champ games has a release of the latter they still sell, but it doesn’t run on 2600+. I don’t know if that’s officially licensed or not. Last (and possibly most difficult) would be porting old Sega vector and raster arcade games that never make official retro comps and never got Megadrive or SMS ports to my knowledge: Space Fury, Tac Scan (2600 version still isn’t 2600+ compatible to my knowledge) and Pulsar. An updated Pengo for 7800 would be amazing. And there’s one of my favourite Taito games, also a twin stick maze shooter: Space Dungeon. This had a 5200 port, so the 400Mini has me covered, but a new 7800 port would be aces! Edited January 29 by Sean_1970 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperZapperRecharge Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 15 minutes ago, Sean_1970 said: Space Dungeon. This had a 5200 port, so the 400Mini has me covered, but a new 7800 port would be aces! Wonder how you'll do dual sticks on the 400Mini. Hmmmm Love me some Space Dungeon! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 30 minutes ago, SuperZapperRecharge said: Wonder how you'll do dual sticks on the 400Mini. Hmmmm My guess would be to get an extra controller. It has five ports, that can used for joysticks or memory-sticks, or keyboards or later stuff released for it. I think its meant/designed to support 4-player games. Edited January 29 by Giles N 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, SuperZapperRecharge said: Wonder how you'll do dual sticks on the 400Mini. Hmmmm Love me some Space Dungeon! Good question and no idea if the 5200 port supported dual stick, but all the more reason to get an all-new 7800 port - nothing to do with the dual stick controller wending its way to me across the sea 😉 I have ordered an extra joystick for the 400Mini of course 😇 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5399620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 hours ago, SuperZapperRecharge said: Love me some Space Dungeon! That game looks fun. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Two months ago I had no 7800 games. Now I have five old carts, with another (Food Fight) on the way: 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Intellivision Master said: That game looks fun. It’s quite challenging but fun and has some surprising depth. Each level is a grid and you go from room to room collecting treasures, though you only need one to exit to the next level. If you die all your treasures are dropped and you can go back to that room to pick up your dropped loot - a surprising feature for an arcade game generally, much less an action game from that era. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/29/2024 at 9:40 PM, Ben from Plaion said: @karri Sent me a proto 7800 cart of a proof of concept R-Type. I just sat there and marvelled at it thinking that this is exactly the direction 2600+ games need to go. Problem is making it a commercial reality. Could you please show us a bit of gameplay video? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 27 minutes ago, pseudografx said: Could you please show us a bit of gameplay video? I'll try tomorrow, but check out @karris screengrabs in this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2024 at 7:49 PM, e1will said: I bought my first 7800 cartridge today, and it plays great on the 2600+. I had never played a 7800 game on an actual console before; back in the day none of my friends had a 7800. Their post-2600 consoles of choice were Colecos and Nintendos. Now I’m kicking myself for not taking advantage of the “last chance sale” and picking up B*nq, the other 7800 game now on my wishlist. Not a bad arcade port. I prefer it to the nes version. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfriendly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I remember playing Space Dungeon on the 5200 a few times back in 1983. I remember there being a caddy that held both of the 5200 controllers so it played kind of like Robotron. It was a pretty fun game from what I remember. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertclevernamehere Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) If Blaze can acquire the licenses for all their Evercade compilation carts, hopefully Atari can do something similar to rerelease some old classics and make some of the homebrews official. Edited January 31 by insertclevernamehere 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 20 minutes ago, bigfriendly said: I remember playing Space Dungeon on the 5200 a few times back in 1983. I remember there being a caddy that held both of the 5200 controllers so it played kind of like Robotron. It was a pretty fun game from what I remember. It’s a great twin-stick shooter and 5200 console exclusive. It suffers from occasional slowdown on the 5200. I’d love to see it ported to the 7800. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfriendly Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Yeah, you're right about the slowdown. Unfortunetly, lots of 5200 games had that issue. I loved Star Raiders but damn it would lag really bad when several enemies were flying around. Defender was really bad also. We all know how horrid those controllers were but they worked well for this particular setup. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5400976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 17 hours ago, sramirez2008 said: It’s a great twin-stick shooter and 5200 console exclusive. It suffers from occasional slowdown on the 5200. I’d love to see it ported to the 7800. The box art is cool looking. It would be great if this game got ported to the 7800. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/360329-i-bought-my-first-7800-game-today%E2%80%A6/#findComment-5401345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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