utri007 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 13 minutes ago, Crash7 said: Reformat your SD card via FAT32. And then get rid of those letter folders. Put your PiRTO software, 0.cfg, games, and their CFG files if they have them, all in the same area. When it gets past the start menu the next thing you should see is the games all on the same list. That's when games started working for me on my goofy Super Pro, even though all of them don't work but some do if they have their own CFG file. In my Sears console, everything works using this setup, also with using the Intellivoice. And the Sears, and the original INTV unit, are built the same. Card is formatted to FAT32 I have no idee what is 0.cfg or other config files. They are not mentioned here https://github.com/aotta/PiRTO This is European Intellivision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted June 26 Author Share Posted June 26 (edited) in my repository i wrote all the info are here, on AA.... just read the RTO and PiRTO thread or use search tool in forum. And, if you're too lazy, here we go: ROM maps.zip Edited June 26 by aotta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, utri007 said: Card is formatted to FAT32 I have no idee what is 0.cfg or other config files. They are not mentioned here https://github.com/aotta/PiRTO This is European Intellivision. Put this in the same folder that you have your ROMs in. Check your DM's in about 10 minutes. 0.cfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 @aotta let's get FujiNet combined with this thing! @jeffpiep -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfboysim Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 6/15/2024 at 11:39 PM, 8bitgeneration said: Hi, here you can fine a couple of Pi-RTO: I have assembled a couple for myself and some more to sell if there is someone interested. I send them from EU. What a great product Andrea has designed (thanks!) https://www.etsy.com/shop/HALsFriends Bruno Bruno have messaged you several times via my Etsy purchase that has not yet arrived can you please respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfboysim Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Thanks to @aotta for creating this project. Also thanks to @8bitgeneration for supplying mine. Already got my SD card in and loving it. Worked straight out of the packaging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Hi! Haven't been on much lately! Picked up a Pi-RTO and was away when it arrived. Opened the package, ready to dig in, but can't insert the cart! It seems the shell has warped: Any tips? I haven't opened up the cart to just insert the board directly. If the files for the shell are available, I can likely find a friend to print up a new one. Not brave enough to try a heat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 6/26/2024 at 5:41 PM, utri007 said: Card is formatted to FAT32 I have no idee what is 0.cfg or other config files. They are not mentioned here https://github.com/aotta/PiRTO This is European Intellivision. I can try to describe what 0.cfg is for... During the development of LTO Flash! UI software (actually, years before that!) I recall finding some reference materials for the original 125 ROMs and their corresponding .cfg files. IIRC I may have found it in jzIntv... (As an experiment, I was working on implementing an Intellivision emulator in a graphical programming language in... maybe... 2003 or 2004 ... when I learned about Intellivision ROM formats.) Anyway, if memory serves, emulators with their roots in the early-mid 90s or that have built upon those core documents about Intellivision emulation follow a pretty simple rule to "guess" at a .cfg file if one is missing. There were 10 "canonical" .cfg files that worked for all of the original 125 game ROMs. (Not sure sure about World Series Major League Baseball, though -- that's always been a special one.) Based on the CRC32 checksum of the raw .bin data for the ROM, if a corresponding .cfg file could not be found (based on file name, e.g. loading foo.bin would look for foo.cfg), then the "best guess" based on .bin file checksum would be used. Emulators often included these as embedded data or as separate files. The 10 "best guess" .cfg files would be 0.cfg, 1.cfg, ... 9.cfg. If the CRC didn't match any known ROM, then the "most popular" file, 0.cfg, would be used. (Again, going from memory, most of the Mattel ROMs can work with 0.cfg. Imagic and Activision usually did something different.) These days my bet is that the likelihood of that file working with any newer games is not so great. Due to the wonderful new tools we have (IntyBASIC and related music trackers and sound and graphics helpers), we have much larger ROMs that more often need specialized .cfg files. Once you get into advanced features like RAM, bank switching, and custom memory maps to ensure ECS compatibility or take advantage of special hardware features available on some boards for carts, it gets trickier. Not sure if this helps, but it's been too long since I've done any Intellivision-related posting so it just fell out of my brain onto the keyboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianSpForces Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 @intvsteve Do you know if it's the SMD PiRTO or the regular? I have a shell for the regular one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On 7/14/2024 at 2:47 PM, intvsteve said: I can try to describe what 0.cfg is for... During the development of LTO Flash! UI software (actually, years before that!) I recall finding some reference materials for the original 125 ROMs and their corresponding .cfg files. IIRC I may have found it in jzIntv... (As an experiment, I was working on implementing an Intellivision emulator in a graphical programming language in... maybe... 2003 or 2004 ... when I learned about Intellivision ROM formats.) Anyway, if memory serves, emulators with their roots in the early-mid 90s or that have built upon those core documents about Intellivision emulation follow a pretty simple rule to "guess" at a .cfg file if one is missing. There were 10 "canonical" .cfg files that worked for all of the original 125 game ROMs. (Not sure sure about World Series Major League Baseball, though -- that's always been a special one.) Based on the CRC32 checksum of the raw .bin data for the ROM, if a corresponding .cfg file could not be found (based on file name, e.g. loading foo.bin would look for foo.cfg), then the "best guess" based on .bin file checksum would be used. Emulators often included these as embedded data or as separate files. The 10 "best guess" .cfg files would be 0.cfg, 1.cfg, ... 9.cfg. If the CRC didn't match any known ROM, then the "most popular" file, 0.cfg, would be used. (Again, going from memory, most of the Mattel ROMs can work with 0.cfg. Imagic and Activision usually did something different.) These days my bet is that the likelihood of that file working with any newer games is not so great. Due to the wonderful new tools we have (IntyBASIC and related music trackers and sound and graphics helpers), we have much larger ROMs that more often need specialized .cfg files. Once you get into advanced features like RAM, bank switching, and custom memory maps to ensure ECS compatibility or take advantage of special hardware features available on some boards for carts, it gets trickier. Not sure if this helps, but it's been too long since I've done any Intellivision-related posting so it just fell out of my brain onto the keyboard. They could build 0.cfg in to the PiRTO firmware, then people wouldn't have to bother with the file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 On 7/16/2024 at 10:24 AM, SiberianSpForces said: @intvsteve Do you know if it's the SMD PiRTO or the regular? I have a shell for the regular one. Have not determined this. It's the one from @8bitgeneration (Ordered via etsy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Hi there all! I'm testing out a PiRTO and am running into an issue where I can't get the menu to come up. Background: = Sears Video Arcade - NTSC - Sears SVA Exec, everything else standard. = I have a 1GB SD Card, Formatted to FAT32 = On the card I have 0.cfg, snafu.bin, burgertime.bin = Using latest 1.1 firmware from github = Video modded - pulling signal right from color chip. What happens now is the cart boots, maybe shows the menu for a millisecond, and then will go right into loading Snafu. If I remove Snafu, it will boot into Burgertime. I thought maybe my controllers were sending a button press, but disconnecting them completely ended in the same behavior. I tried all of the prior NTSC firmwares as well. They all seem to behave the same in that they will show the boot pirto logo, and will require a button press, will maybe show the menu for half a second and then will show the loading screen forever. The device does work as the games play great, I'd just love to use the menu instead of a single game on the SD :D. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, EdgeFaction said: I thought maybe my controllers were sending a button press, but disconnecting them completely ended in the same behavior. It seems the boot program reads the "enter" key or a fire buttons pressend in one of the two controller... i'd check that the controllers logic are ok with the attached diagnostic... put both files in your sdcard, delete snafu and burgertime and give a try to the controller! fwdiag.cfg fwdiag.bin Edited July 18 by aotta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, aotta said: It seems the boot program reads the "enter" key or a fire buttons pressend in one of the two controller... i'd check that the controllers logic are ok with the attached diagnostic... put both files in your sdcard, delete snafu and burgertime and give a try to the controller! fwdiag.cfg 243 B · 1 download fwdiag.bin 63 kB · 1 download Thank you for your reply and may I first say thank you for your contributions on this project and others! It is extremely appreciated, and I certainly understand the extra personal time and work you must be putting in. Thank You. I gave this a try, I get the piRTO screen and chime, and then maybe a flash of menu, and then a green screen briefly shows and then a dissolving red, and then a black screen. This is with NO controllers connected. I get the same with both controllers connected. I'll get out my INTV II later to test, but could there be anything firmware related with this Sears Video Arcade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 11 minutes ago, EdgeFaction said: Thank you for your reply and may I first say thank you for your contributions on this project and others! It is extremely appreciated, and I certainly understand the extra personal time and work you must be putting in. Thank You. I gave this a try, I get the piRTO screen and chime, and then maybe a flash of menu, and then a green screen briefly shows and then a dissolving red, and then a black screen. This is with NO controllers connected. I get the same with both controllers connected. I'll get out my INTV II later to test, but could there be anything firmware related with this Sears Video Arcade? AFAIK, PiRTO and PiRTO II work with no issue on Sears and Super PRO with latest firmware, but i had only few feedback since now. With previous FWs, the timing was not correct so the multicart didn't work at all, your issue is different, it works but it select first game in list as soon as it starts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 hours ago, aotta said: AFAIK, PiRTO and PiRTO II work with no issue on Sears and Super PRO with latest firmware, but i had only few feedback since now. With previous FWs, the timing was not correct so the multicart didn't work at all, your issue is different, it works but it select first game in list as soon as it starts! I get the same behavior on my INTY II. I wonder if it's possible one of the connections to the pi that would interface with the controls could cause the issue? (this was picked up on Etsy), It looks like they used... some sort of solder paste. I'll maybe try resoldering those connections next unless anyone has any ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 On 7/18/2024 at 9:49 PM, EdgeFaction said: I get the same behavior on my INTY II. I wonder if it's possible one of the connections to the pi that would interface with the controls could cause the issue? (this was picked up on Etsy), It looks like they used... some sort of solder paste. I'll maybe try resoldering those connections next unless anyone has any ideas. Resoldering all the Pi points did the trick. It looks like a solder mask was maybe used but not everything was heated up all the way to make a secure connection. Maybe it bounced loose in transit or in the case. @8bitgeneration I'm told it was purchased from your store, so just a heads up. Beautiful product, great work to all involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 A correction, now I seem to have some strange graphical artifacts. Tiny lines. Everything else works great. Has anyone ran into the video signal not looking "clean" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeFaction Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just closing the loop. I gave up on the board that came from 8bitgeneration. It looked different from the designs on Git and just wasn't working in all ways. I ordered some new boards with everything but the pi pre-soldered, and sourced some Pis from a reputable seller (adafruit). Everything came in this week and I just soldered one of the Pico Pis on, set the two jumpers (which weren't on the other board at all) and poof I have a perfectly working PiRTO! Again I have nothing but appreciation and amazement for these open source projects. The amount of time put in to where I can simply order from a PCB shop and make things happen on my own for fair prices (though sometimes in high volume :D) is amazing. Thanks again @aotta and others involved with the original RTO project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotta Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 @EdgeFaction Happy you got it working, and if you had ordered pcb for the new PiRTO II instead of the older one, you'd spent under 10$ for five pcb in which to add only the PI clones! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash7 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 58 minutes ago, aotta said: @EdgeFaction Happy you got it working, and if you had ordered pcb for the new PiRTO II instead of the older one, you'd spent under 10$ for five pcb in which to add only the PI clones! The PiRTO I that you sent me works perfectly in my Sears unit. I put about 30 games on it, and it works like a charm. I couldn't be more pleased, as well as grateful for what you did for me. Thanks-- Keith 🕹️ Edited August 2 by Crash7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Hi, I have just started building a PiRTO and was going to use an SD card reader I had lying around that looks like this... However the points on the sd card reader in aotta's picture (see below) are labelled differently. Do I need to use a different type of SD Card reader? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 I purchased the correct SD Card Adapter in the end and now have a fully functional device working on my Pal Intellivision. Thank you Aotta for creating such a device, it was very straight forward to build. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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