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Does anyone have high resolution scans of the classic TI cartridge packaging? Like the one seen in the image below on the left:

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I'm looking at making repros of these, so the exact dimensions would be great as well.

 

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ISTR that @OLD CS1 had some really nice manual templates that he put up here a few years ago (both old and new style). I'm not sure if anyone has ever done a really good box scan. The hardest part will be the trays (if you plan on trying to do that). The Navarone-style boxes eliminated the need for a tray (and secured the cartridge with an internal structure) but still made the manual visible, so a single generic box could be used for many different releases. They are also about the same size as the TI boxes.

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For the trays I was thinking about using cardstock (or light cardboard), plastic isn't really appropriate anymore these days and I doubt I'd find an economic way of having that manufactured. The diecut for that will likely be fairly complex, so if I can't find a digital printing house that is able to make that for me, I might invest in a small laser cutter.

 

I reckon I might be able to recreate the box art from high quality photos and some accurate measurements as well.

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I took some quick scans of the box. These are 24-bit 300 dpi TIFF files. I could take measurements with a ruler, but you'd probably get more accurate results by just loading the images into an image manipulation program and using its ruler.

 

Are these the kind of things you're looking for? If not, let me know and I'll see what I can do (oh, and if you want the tray as well, let me know).

 

- Rick

TI-99 Packaging.zip

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Thanks, Rick!

 

This looks workable, I'll try to put something together and share back here.

*edit* using the measuring tool in Gimp, I get a width of ~160mm, does that sound reasonable?

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Okay, I replicated the box in GIMP. Man, those designers back in the day used a lot of ever-so-slightly-different fonts! I didn't manage to find 100% exact matches for each font, but I think I got pretty close.

 

I probably should've done this in Inkscape instead of GIMP though... ah well... It's definitely high resolution enough to result in some nice prints.

 

Again, big thanks Rick for scanning the original!

 

I made a tan and a pure white version (not sure what color the boxes originally were). The .xcf file attached has both, as well as a "assembled" version of the original scans for those that are interested.

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box_full.xcf

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Nice work, and a couple of nice touches.  I could not see the fonts you used as it looks like you merged your layers, but in my templates I used Franklin Book Gothic a lot.  It is a fairly good match, except for the "g".  In fact, that letter alone is what stymies my search for a good replica font.  But, sometimes you gotta pee with what you got.

 

When I made my disk sleeves, I used Copperplate Gothic Light for the company name, and FreeSans for the city.  I never got around to doing the back of the manuals, only the fronts, so I am interested in what font you used and any spacing and kerning adjustments you used for the text.  For a lot of text I have done, I found good-old Arial worked with some adjustments.  These are the disk sleeves I did, all new text and artwork.

 

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6 hours ago, TheMole said:

Man, those designers back in the day used a lot of ever-so-slightly-different fonts!

Yes.  Sometimes the same font with different spacings.  Aggravating.

6 hours ago, TheMole said:

I probably should've done this in Inkscape

I wish I knew how to use Inkscape properly.  There is an online course I have had in my tabs for months which I need to take.

6 hours ago, TheMole said:

I made a tan and a pure white version (not sure what color the boxes originally were).

I am pretty certain they were white.  Or, the color of whatever paper stock they could get at the time.  I would make them white (essentially, devoid of coloring,) and let the die fall where they may when they get printed.

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I used What The Font to find the closest matches.

 

  • For the Texas Instruments logo font, I've ended up using a high resolution version of the current logo and fixing the font spacing to match the older style. The closest font I could find was Rubicon by AKTF, but the capital 'M' is way off. I did use that one for the "incorporated" part.
  • The big "Applications Software" text is done with Approach Extra Black Italic, although the lower case 'a' is not 100% correct.
  • The serif font for the small text is done with Century Old Style Regular. The capital 'J' is wrong...
  • The sans serif header font is Nimbus Sans L in a variety of weights, sometimes italic. That one seems to be very close, but it's actually a modern-ish open source font, so can't be what they actually used back in the day :)

As for spacing and kerning, it was all over the place. I just went in section by section and overlayed the font, played around with the spacing, size, etc... until I got as close to a perfect match as I could. For certain fonts I had to go in afterwards and manually adjust letter spacing...

 

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9 hours ago, OLD CS1 said:

@TheMole  Holy chit... you paid quite a bit for those fonts.  I tried to stick with the free stuff, but that Approach font is fantastic.  Even the "g" is perfect!

Approach is the only one I had to purchase. Nimbus is free, I already had Century Old on my mac for some reason, and I found a free version of Rubicon somewhere which came with an appropriate license. But yeah, Approach was quite expensive for a font...

 

Still struggling with one thing here: I found @OLD CS1's old style manual template, but if I check the dimensions in that file, I get something closer to 140mm in width instead of the 160mm I get from the box scans. Are the manuals not supposed to be roughly the same size?

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2 minutes ago, TheMole said:

Approach is the only one I had to purchase. Nimbus is free, I already had Century Old on my mac for some reason, and I found a free version of Rubicon somewhere which came with an appropriate license. But yeah, Approach was quite expensive for a font...

 

Still struggling with one thing here: I found @OLD CS1's old style manual template, but if I check the dimensions in that file, I get something closer to 140mm in width instead of the 160mm I get from the box scans. Are the manuals not supposed to be roughly the same size?

the manuals are designed to fit into the plastic tray so they are a bit smaller than the box itself as there a edge around the whole tray.

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37 minutes ago, Gary from OPA said:

the manuals are designed to fit into the plastic tray so they are a bit smaller than the box itself as there a edge around the whole tray.

What he said.

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I get something closer to 140mm in width instead of the 160mm I get from the box scans. Are the manuals not supposed to be roughly the same size?

I measured the manual that came with the box that I scanned for you (which was Adventure, by the way). The manual was indeed a hair under 140mm wide.

 

- Rick

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