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I recently came across a .bin dump of a "GROM Saver" program by M. Huyghe (of Belgian extraction, I believe). It appeared spontaneously on my Facebook feed. When it dumps GROMs, I get empty files (I suspect I am doing something wrong). Is anyone, particularly in the European community familiar with the author or the program? Any info would be appreciated. 

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15 minutes ago, atrax27407 said:

OK - no comments, Can anyone identify it from the .bin?

I renamed it to "SMc.bin" and then copied the Editor/Assembler cart GROM file to the same directory and renamed it to "SMg.bin" and loaded (dragged) the c file into Classic99...  Both menu items came up, I could go into the ROM program and save a DSK1.TEST file which then contained the E/A GROM data.  Seems to work OK, but useful only for GROMs.

 

What was the question again?

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I downloaded the .bin file and burned it into an EPROM. It boots and appears to function. I tried to save the console GROMS and, strangely, it increments the FIRST character of each file. It appears to be dumping something to DSK1 but the three files created are all "zero'ed out" and contain no data.

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2 minutes ago, atrax27407 said:

I downloaded the .bin file and burned it into an EPROM. It boots and appears to function. I tried to save the console ROMS and, strangely, it increments the FIRST character of each file. It appears to be dumping something to DSK1 but the three files created are all "zero'ed out" and contain no data.

It doesn't appear to do console GROMs - only cartridge GROMs from >6000 onwards.

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2 minutes ago, atrax27407 said:

I downloaded the .bin file and burned it into an EPROM. It boots and appears to function. I tried to save the console GROMS and, strangely, it increments the FIRST character of each file. It appears to be dumping something to DSK1 but the three files created are all "zero'ed out" and contain no data.

Same thing here when I tried it, but Jason probably has found the answer.

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There is grom dumping programs that also used the load interrupt feature. They would load into 32k, you press the load interrupt and it would dump the cartridge.

 

Also id you disable the reset line on the cartridge you can carefully switch cartridges.

 

There was adapter for that as well which navarone sold as well.

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7 hours ago, atrax27407 said:

I recently came across a .bin dump of a "GROM Saver" program by M. Huyghe (of Belgian extraction, I believe). It appeared spontaneously on my Facebook feed. When it dumps GROMs, I get empty files (I suspect I am doing something wrong). Is anyone, particularly in the European community familiar with the author or the program? Any info would be appreciated. 

 

I knew Marc back in the early 80’s, a very smart guy.  We were members of the TI Club Waregem.

 

The GROM Saver program you are referring to might be related to his cartridge module.

It basically allowed you to load cartridge contents (kinda like GRAM Kracker). I still have such a module.

Might be able to take some pictures if I can find it. 

 

EDIT: If memory serves me right, we had this module before the GRAM Kracker made its way to Europe.

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There was also a program called "CVAC" that worked in conjunction with the Navarone cartridge port extender. You would load the program with the E/A cart, and after it loaded, gently switch to the cartridge you wanted to dump and, if you were lucky, it would read and dump the cartridge to disk. It was a bit sensitive to say the least.

 

I have a DSR dump program that works from within F'WEB that Tony McGovern wrote for me on one of my trips to Oz that works only from F'WEB (it uses some of the F'WEB internal routines). I wonder if it could be altered to dump contents beginning at >6000 instead of >1X00? I'll have to find the source and see what I can come up with.

 

Retroclouds, would you happen to have any docs for Mark's program?

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24 minutes ago, atrax27407 said:

There was also a program called "CVAC" that worked in conjunction with the Navarone cartridge port extender. You would load the program with the E/A cart, and after it loaded, gently switch to the cartridge you wanted to dump and, if you were lucky, it would read and dump the cartridge to disk. It was a bit sensitive to say the least.

There's also "CSAVE2" (EA5 format) on wht which you can load with a TIPI (or my device, or certain Myarc PEB cards I think using a different CALL) with CALL TIPI.

 

I think it saves in GRAM Kracker format, but not really sure.

CSAVE2.zip

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Found the .dsk image with the doc...

 

Spoiler

..LM 10
..RM 70
..FI
..AD
..CE 2
Cartridge Saver Utility
by J..^Peter Hoddie

Purpose: to save cartridges to disk in
GRAM Kracker (TM Millers Graphics)
format for use on the MYARC 9640 Family
Computer..

This program is very simple to operate
once you have it loaded..  The trick is
to get the program loaded into memory
with the cartridge you wish to save in
the cartridge port..  Several methods of
loading are described below..  Once you
have the program loaded, you will be
prompted for a filename..  Enter the
filename you wish to have the file
saved under..  Because of the filenaming
conventions used with GRAM Kracker the
filename may not have more that 9
characters after the period..  After you
enter the filename, the program will
scan the cartridge to determine which
memory banks are used..  This
information is then presented to you on
the screen as shown below:

..LM +3
GGGGGGGGRR
0123456712
^^^*

..LM -3
An asterisk indicates that a particular
bank is to be saved.. In the above
example only GROM bank 3 would be
saved, as is the case with the
Editor/Assembler cartridge..  Use the
number keys from 0 to 7 to toggle the
saving of GROM's 0 to 7 on and off..
Use the letters A to D to set which ROM
banks, as explained on the screen..  You
do not have to use these options, they
are primarily included for cases where
a dirty cartridge port may cause a bad
scan.. If you are unsure how to use this
feautre, you probably don't need to use
it..

You also have the option to save either
Short or Long GROMs..  The program
defaults to Short GROMs..  TI only put
6K of data into their GROMs so they can
be saved in the short form..  This will
save 8 sectors per GROM bank on disk,
and thus save you both disk space and
load time..  If you are saving a
cartridge such as Mechatronics XB II or
Triton's Super Extended BASIC you must
use Long GROMs..  In general, use Short
GROMs for cartridges produced while TI
was still in the market and Long GROMs
for later cartridges..  The Long GROMs
option saves cartridges exactly like
the GRAM Kracker..

When all the settings are correct, hit
ENTER and the cartridge will be saved
to disk..  If the is a disk error such
as no disk in the drive or there is not
enough room on the disk for the
cartridge a "DISK ERROR" will be issued
and the program will restart..  If the
cartridge is successfully saved to
disk, you will be returned to the
master title screen..

It is very important that you have a
clean cartridge port when using this
program..  It has been found that dirty
contacts can cause bad saves,
particularly in cartridges that contain
ROM..  Please note that this program can
not save the Milton Bradley MBX
cartridges..

If you wish to save just the operating
system (GROMs 0, 1 and 2) of the
TI-99/4A to disk, simply run the
program and remove the cartridge before
entering a filename..  This will allow
you to copy your GROMs exactly for the
9640..

Loading:

MYARC Disk Controller or CorComp with
MG new PROM set: Insert the cartridge
you wish to save, enter TI BASIC and
from immediate mode type 
CALL ILR
CALL LR("DSK1..CSAVE")
and the program will start
automatically..

CorComp Disk Controller: Insert the
cartridge you with to save, select the
disk manager from the title screen..
Use the Load and Run option to load the
file CSAVE..  

Horizon RAM Disk:
..LM +5
With original ROS from Horizon: Replace
the MGR1 file with the CS file.. Insert
the cartridge you with to save and from
TI BASIC type
CALL DM
and the program will start
automatically..

With John Johnson's MENU program: Allow
menu to run at power up with the
cartridge you wish to save in place..
Use MENU to run the file CS..

With the Genial Computerware Horizon
EPROM: Insert the cartridge to save, go
to TI BASIC and type 
CALL ILD
CALL LD("DSK1..CSAVE")

..LM-5

Widget: Using Editor/Assembler option 5
or TI-Writer option 3 load the CS file,
or with Mini-Memory option 1 load the
CSAVE file..  When the program starts,
slide the switch on the Widget to
enable the cartridge you wish to save
and then enter the filename to save it
under..

Load Interrupt Switch: Using
Editor/Assembler option 3 or
Mini-Memory option 1 load the CSAVE
file..  After it starts, remove the
Editor/Assembler cartridge and insert
the cartridge you wish to save..  Then
press the Load Interrupt button to
(re)start the program..

Nothing special: Using
Editor/Assembler option 5 or TI-Writer
option 3 load the CS file or with
Mini-Memory load the CSAVE file..  When
the program starts carefully remove the
cartridge you loaded the program with
and gently insert the cartridge that
you wish to save with a piece of tape
over pin 1 of the cartridge to prevent
the console from resetting..

......................
 

 

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