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It occurred to me that we are missing a dedicated thread for the Super Famicom. Do you own a Super Famicom and why? Know any exclusive and/or weird games we should know about? Purchasing tips? Memories about playing Japanese games? Please discuss everything related to the Japanese "SNES" here.

 

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I'll start things of by highlighting a game that has been on my mind for a while:

Dezaemon aka DIY Shoot 'em Up

 

Dezaemon has been released to several consoles but only in Japan. The premise is quite simple: you are provided with a graphical interface to create your own top down shooter. The SNES-version has a fully fledged game preinstalled called Daioh's Gale which is pretty decent in itself but the meat of the thing is the editor where you can do your own graphics, effects and music. The editor is almost text-less, so it's very import friendly, if you know what you are doing. I got my copy about a year ago but haven't really tinkered with it to know anything. And I really don't have the patience to learn the thing. But I reckon the editor is pretty robust as the manual is almost 100 pages long.

 

So why has this game been on my mind? Well it's the DIY part. Suppose there was a person who was extremely capable of producing a fantastic game with this editor. And they did back in the day. Then they forgot about the cart and decided to sell it away some day. Then many years pass and you randomly stumble upon said cart. You now own a fully original shoot 'em up that no one else has! As fas as I can tell, you cannot swap creations between carts, so every used cart has a change to contain something wonderful. My first copy of the game sadly was not one of these cases. Someone clearly did some tinkering with the editor and slapped a ripple effect on the level but that's about it. My newest Japan box that I'm still waiting on also has a Dezaemon cart in it. Maybe this time I will strike gold. 

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Well hopping into the time machine we go back to 1995-7 and originally to the earlier date locally, then when ebay just got off the ground out west in the other I started digging in that period into Japanese stuff we got teased about and never got.  The first things I ran do were the most accessible...Gameboy and Super Famicom, followed in 97-98 by the Duo/PCE CDs since not region locked and this is the physical, ROMs, some here know my background and well I've had access for years. ;)

 

Super Famicom was by far the one I cared most about, outside of SDF Macross costing me about 70 shipped which I never paid that high on a game really before or since until the greedy era of 2012-present, I ended up owning a few dozen SFC games, all complete, because they were ridiculously cheap and fun.  They were lost to me in 05, not going there, don't like thinking about that, but fast forward to waffling and being annoyed because now loose is what complete was I put off buying into it again until the last 4-5 years.  I've currently got 35 SFC games, none complete, and I've had a select few more that didn't hit me well to keep very few.  Not many of what I once had i don't have now, a few but the prices are utterly evil on things like Spriggan Powered, IRIA, and another couple of them but otherwise I largely recovered things that aged well to me.

 

That said Iv'e never officially owned a Super Famicom, it just wasn't what i considered worth the space or approachable, always DID want the rainbow button controller, never did that either outside of the regionally released ASCII Pad and I have a couple of those now.  What I did do is use a nice ladies automatic file and smoothed/polished out the 2 tabs and used my US system.  Later down the line when I didn't have the carts it didn't matter, but by the time I did again I've got the Analogue SuperNt and a Supaboy S(now Black Gold) unit which runs it all natively so kind of?  I mean I could run it now I came across a NOS adapter so I wouldn't have to chop, but it just hasn't come up but I could with my DK Super Set put away in its box.

 

I've always appreciated the games, right in line with the Japanese Famicom games we got hosed out of, more then because of stricter censoring, asinine 5 game/yr policies, etc.  I mean even in the day (90s) I went as far as translating with a co-worker at the time who was half japanese to help me the Hokuto no Ken 6 (Fist of the Northstar 6) manual (I still have the text.)  The variety is fantastic, and they had some real gems we missed.  Even in that day I was ground level with emulation, roms, gray if that area stuff, and ended up on the test/help team with the first translation of Final Fantasy V which was a gem of a time period and game.  I just even acquired a modern day high (it is for what it is) quality pcb/label on an original shell english copy of Secret of Mana 2(Seiken Densetsu 3) which I never got around to in over 25 years which sucks.  Maybe I'll be motivated now?

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(Not an exclusive, but has enough aesthetic differences to be of note to fans)

 

I don't play a ton of Super Fami-specific games. A lot of the best games from over there released Stateside. That said, there are a few I've come back to over the years, the most noteworthy being.. uh, pinball games of all things, specifically Super Pinball II and Jaki Crush.

 

Re: Dezaemon - The Saturn iteration is crazy because you could share your games with others. There ended up being what is effectively a busy homebrew scene just for that game that I'm just now becoming privy to thanks to a modern remake of one of its game creations from back then (Devil Blade Reboot).

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2 hours ago, Tanooki said:

That said Iv'e never officially owned a Super Famicom, it just wasn't what i considered worth the space or approachable, always DID want the rainbow button controller

Me neither. But we got the same superior design in the PAL region along with the rainbow controllers, so there wasn't really a point on getting one. I did grab a few dirt cheap SFC controllers last time around but wasn't aware how short the cords are on those.

 

As for games, it was different with NES because you could always get some asian flair with the myriad of bootleg 100in1 carts. But there was none of that with the SNES. So before the Internet, the world of SFC was completely alien to me as the import scene here was strickly US only. I wish I'd realized that part of the genre in my collection phase around 2006. Now it's a painstaking job to find any good deals. 

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@Wayler Yeah that's the other issue.  I never really locally saw some controller extensions I could grab in town back in the 90s so I just avoided those as Japan has those largely small homes and most TVs for the FC era were scoped out to average around 13-15" and the SFC era was like 17-19" so you sat fairly close which I don't, still don't.  My retired one car garage room has the chair on one side (narrow not long) and TV on the other and even that won't reach.  I've got the same problem with my AV Famicom but with the 9" TV I don't really care much since I just sit in front of it or so close by on a chair it's like whatever, the exception, and also the same cord plague on the Famicom Mini(legit) I found in town a few months ago as those aren't even 2" which is a curse.

 

You're pretty right about the asian flair, at least with the stand alone games, the hacks.  Getting a fresh game was unheart of until the horrors of quality that Hong Kong 97 gave us.  The part you're off on, the multicarts, man those did exist even in the 90s.  They cheaped the F out, never put batteries in them despite commonly including the likes of Super Mario World and F-Zero, more a problem really obviously with mario.  I've had a few of them over the years, may try and grab a few more out of my friend here shortly (working up a game bundle again.)  They're not 100in1s because even the small games aren't that small exactly on SFC vs FC, so usually you'd end up with these like 3 to 7-in-1 style things, all with the same boring blue background color and plain white text menu.  I wish I had the two I used to way back, had some decent stuff like the two mentioned, Indiana Jones and various others.  Amusingly though I did get a pair a year or two back and one has the game list of the Mario/F-Zero/Goof Troop one thankfully (Congo too) along with Choplifter 3, Top Gear, World Cup Soccer 94(meh), and Tom & Jerry.  The other is smaller with 6, Aladdin, Superstar Soccer, Super Bombliss, PUzzle Bobble, Super Bomberman and Pac-Man.  Strangely this one is a bit unique among others, it has a green shaded in horizontal bars background hot pink 6-in-1, push start or b to PALY game (yes it says that) also softer pink, and white text/numbers for the games.

 

I quickly took an image just because it would do best to show not just tell.  I really miss the one with Indy, but I've always had the real cart so I'll survive.

 

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10 hours ago, Austin said:

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(Not an exclusive, but has enough aesthetic differences to be of note to fans)

I have that too. We got the superior box art but they got the uncensored game, so that is why I decided to get both.

 

I'm also a sucker for pretty pictures, so I got this Japanese Guidebook for the game just because it might contain some cool art. Luckily it had the complete bestiary in it. 

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Got some more books coming up in my recent purchases. 

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13 hours ago, Austin said:

Re: Dezaemon - The Saturn iteration is crazy because you could share your games with others. There ended up being what is effectively a busy homebrew scene just for that game that I'm just now becoming privy to thanks to a modern remake of one of its game creations from back then (Devil Blade Reboot).

Sounds fun. Would have been great if the SFC had that sharing too but I guess the technology just wasn't there yet. Just found out that Dezaemon got a satellite broadcast also. A short little stint it seems. Looks goofy but shows the versatility of the engine:

 

 

I hear also that it's a pain in the butthole to produce music for homebrew SNES games because of the wonky & difficult design, or somesuch. But if the music editor in Dezaemon can produce sounds like this, couldn't it be possible to utilize it to other games?

 

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I remember first playing SFC games in mid-1993, when a (semi) local game store started renting them out with the option to buy. I ended up with a copy of Ganbare Goemon, a friend bought Assault Suits Valken.

 

After that place went out of business, I don't think I saw another SFC game in person until about 2003.

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About the Japanese guidebooks. I confess to not knowing anything about the language, so my enjoyment for these is purely visual, like a preschooler pretending to read but only looking at the pictures. I try to get them for the games I truly love only but this time I made an exception:

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I was browsing through a guidebook category when this weird religious imagery popped up and it said Super Famicom. After a little investigation, the book turned out to be Shin Megami Tensei II Demon Encyclopedia. Over a hundred pages filled with wonderful depictions of every creature found in the game. Never have I played it but this book makes me want to, I hope it's translated. 

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I did find one thing odd though. Something is clearly bothering Cthulu and he's being a total dick about. NSFW, probably. 

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Or maybe he's just been hanging around this guy a little too much. NSFW, most definitely. 

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I can understand why this one stayed in Japan. 

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I've got something similar here I picked up fairly cheap, Dragon Quest Monster Story (and art) Book.  I can't seem to get the specific title, close with that, so google is being dopey just tying back to ebay.  The full thing is loaded with Toryiama sketched and with color added they stories and stuff about the featured monsters.  I just liked the look and figuerd maybe one time i'd try and learn enough again to tranlate it.

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