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Need help building a list of what does NOT run on the 2600+! Games -and- Hardware


Albert

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Greetings!

 

We'd like to (finally) update the 2600+ compatibility list on Atari's website to reflect the progress that's been made improving the compatibility of games and hardware on the 2600+.  If there's anything that does NOT run 100% on the 2600+ using the very latest firmware, please list it below, including a description of how the game or hardware fails.  This can include not just games originally published by Atari and third parties back in the day, but modern homebrew games and hardware as well.

 

I have looked through the very helpful 2600+ Compatibility Spreadsheet that @KainXavier put together (thank you!), but it doesn't seem to be comprehensive in covering all the games and hardware.  If there's another, more comprehensive list that covers just about everything, please let me know and I will look through it.

 

Again, I'm just interested in what does NOT work right now, since that is a relatively small list at this point.

 

Here's the current list, and I will update this as people respond: 

 

Boulder Dash (AtariAge) - Melody (3E) - Does not load

Galagon (Champ Games) - Melody (CDFJ) - Does not load

Lode Runner (AtariAge) - Melody (CDFJ) - Does not load

 

Star Warriors / Frogger 2 PAK Special (HES) (PAL) - Does not load

Dolphin / Pigs n Wolf 2 PAK Special (HES) (PAL) - Does not load

Planet Patrol / Wall Defender 2 PAK Special (HES) (PAL) - Does not load

Challenge / Surfin 2 PAK Special (HES) (PAL) - Does not load
 

Thank you everyone for your help!!

 

 ..Al

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New carts from from Atari Age:

 

Boulderdash

(Multiregion cart)

Issue - Does not load

 

Lode Runner

(PAL60 cart)

Issue - Does not load

 

 

Classic carts, 2 Pak Special x 3:

 

Star Warriors

Frogger

(PAL cart)

Issue - Does not load

 

Dolphin

Pigs n Wolf

(PAL cart)

Issue - Does not load

 

Planet Patrol

Wall Defender

(PAL cart)

Issue - Does not load or show debug info, black screen hard crash

 

Everything else from my collection of hundreds across PAL, NTSC and one SECAM cart work fine. 

 

I have shared the degub info with Raz0red for these five carts (where available) already. 😊👍🏻

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Just now, MrChickenz said:

Galagon Champ Games from AtariAge 

 

Won’t load!

Yeah, I know that the CDFJ/CDFJ+ games won't run, which would be most of Champ's releases over the past few years.  I do need to get an exact list of those.  Older DPC+ games should now work, though. 

 

 ..Al

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16 minutes ago, Albert said:

Older DPC+ games should now work, though.

ngl, I feel like there is probably more than one DPC+ kernel. I would make a list of the DPC+ games that work...along with which kernel (or kernel version) they use. Especially since I feel like anything over 32 KB would not load.

Then again, while I did need the money, I do miss the 2600+ that I sold. Fingers crossed that we eat big for next year or so.

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2 minutes ago, r_chase said:

ngl, I feel like there is probably more than one DPC+ kernel. I would make a list of the DPC+ games that work...along with which kernel (or kernel version) they use. Especially since I feel like anything over 32 KB would not load.

That could very well be true.  All the older DPC+ games were only 32K, though.  Only recently do we have larger games, and those are CDFJ+ (or something even newer than that).  There are some batari Basic games that use DPC+ as well (such as Deepstone Catacomb).  

 

 ..Al

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1 minute ago, Fred_M said:

Hes cartridge: 2 Pak special: Challenge & Surfin PAL does not work either. After loading only a black screen is visible.

 

Debug info is already supplied to raz0red.

Great, thank you on both counts!  :)

 

 ..Al

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For me. The only games that have issues are my PAL copy of Frogger 2600 (Parker bros) Disappearing sprites and Crossbow 7800 PAL audio lag, which does not happen in all PAL versions apparently.

Apart from those, I'm good. 👍🏻

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7 hours ago, Albert said:

Yeah, I know that the CDFJ/CDFJ+ games won't run, which would be most of Champ's releases over the past few years.  I do need to get an exact list of those.  Older DPC+ games should now work, though. 

Standard 4K:
-Avalanche

 

16K F6:
-Lady Bug (Non-"Arcade" release)
-Conquest of Mars


32K Melody Enhanced DPC+:
-Scramble

 

32K Melody Enhanced CDF:
-Super Cobra Arcade

 

32K Melody Enhanced CDFJ:
-Mappy
-Wizard of Wor
-Galagon
-Zoo Keeper
-Lady Bug Arcade
-RobotWar 2684

 

32K Melody Enhanced CDFJ+:
-Gorf
-Qyx

 

64K Melody Enhanced CDFJ+:
-Elevator Agent

 

128K Melody Enhanced CDFJ+:
-Turbo Arcade

 

Green works.  Red does not.

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9 hours ago, Albert said:

Yeah, I know that the CDFJ/CDFJ+ games won't run, which would be most of Champ's releases over the past few years.  I do need to get an exact list of those.  Older DPC+ games should now work, though. 

 

 ..Al

Super Cobra Arcade

Mappy

Turbo Arcade

 

Pitfall II when played as a single I’m from a harmony cart

 

currently not working

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I would have to throw in,

 

Paddles for Super Breakout and Kaboom. For myself these games are playable but not quite right! 
 

Super Breakout has an incremental paddle movement. Which effects game play

Kaboom the paddles don’t have a quick enough response for the game to be played the way it should. You can only get to a certain point in the game making it impossible to advance.

Although these games load and work they are not 100% in my opinion. And as others have mentioned as well.

 

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58 minutes ago, MrChickenz said:

I would have to throw in,

 

Paddles

For me, this is the biggest issue with the 2600+.  The fact that the 2600+ does not properly emulate the paddles with the same performance level of the original is a shame.  The paddles on the original 2600 are an A+, you feel like you are one with the paddle.  The current paddle emulation on the 2600+ is a C-.

 

 

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1 hour ago, chad5200 said:

For me, this is the biggest issue with the 2600+.  The fact that the 2600+ does not properly emulate the paddles with the same performance level of the original is a shame.  The paddles on the original 2600 are an A+, you feel like you are one with the paddle.  The current paddle emulation on the 2600+ is a C-.

 

 

I agree! 
 

A possible solution would be an adapter that utilizes the USB-c to DB9 with an OTG cable included with the adapter. I believe this is possible with the emulation that’s installed on the 2600+. This has been done with the Retron 77 with great results.

This is something I would purchase if it resolves the paddle issues.

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39 minutes ago, MrChickenz said:

To sum it up, I don’t think any hardware works on the 2600+ except for Joysticks and Game pads. The Paddles work for most games but not 100%. Super Breakout and Kaboom are not 100%.

Yes, paddles work for some games very well, like Solarstorm,  Eggomania, Tac Scan, Warlords.

Others like Kaboom, Super Breakout, Circus Atari, Brik are a medicore experience. 

 

I miss the Trakball support😞

If paddles work, support should be possible.

 

Driving Controller support should be possible.

 

Atarivox would be nice but seems to be very difficult?

 

Touchpad also would be difficult to implement?

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3 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said:

Yes, paddles work for some games very well, like Solarstorm,  Eggomania, Tac Scan, Warlords.

Others like Kaboom, Super Breakout, Circus Atari, Brik are a medicore experience. 

how about Medieval Mayhem? is this one closer to "well" or to "mediocre"? :roll:

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