swiller Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: The arcade's difficulty ramping is designed to eat quarters, and the game is tedious because it gets insufferably difficult way too quickly. I can respect that. I have similar feelings over Centipede. Those Williams arcade games are just magic to me and pick them everytime. Defender, Stargate and Robotron are equally quarter munchers. But the sound and graphics are just outstanding. Let's not forget the Joust font too. Edited September 27 by swiller 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5539921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 I am trying to figure out what units to take with me to eJagfest. 7800 PAL + HDMI adapter: - NTSC games leave garbage at the bottom of the screen 7800 NTSC + HDMI adapter: - one game has weird framerates and the HDMI adapter says "no signal" 2600+: - no paddle support for my new HDMI game The choice is clear. - the 2600+ shows all games - the 2600+ shows both PAL and NTSC games without artifacts. - no bulky power supply, no cables, no power adapter - games can be switched from the thumbwheel on the cart - I might even code in a select option to run the paddle game with joysticks. Please fix the paddle emulation for the 7800+. Having just one console leaves room for more games in the luggage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today 25 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bent_pin Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 minute ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today Looks awesome! What games did you bring to show off? 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 2 hours ago, bent_pin said: Looks awesome! What games did you bring to show off? Atari had loads of carts already. I bought 2 of the first 7800+ units off the production line (no serial number!) along with Bounty Bob, Caverns of Mars, Berserk and Frenzy. I had a really great time today and met lots of AA posters in real life! 15 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 10 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: I had a really great time today and met lots of AA (im)posters in real life! Sarcasm, don't be offended! The 7800+ looks great! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 hour ago, Ben from Plaion said: I had a really great time today and met lots of AA posters in real life! Great meeting you Ben. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 8 minutes ago, sramirez2008 said: Great meeting you Ben. Straight back at you bro! 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 5 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today This looks so neat with no cables. Hmm... What about wireless paddles as well? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microjak Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 7 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today looks great! Ive never been to a gaming convention but would like to,although my credit card wouldn't !!!! Any good ones in the UK uuuup North? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DhaemonX Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 9 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today Looks awesome. What game is that? Looks really fun. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 hour ago, DhaemonX said: Looks awesome. What game is that? Looks really fun. That is Bounty Bob 😃 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 3 hours ago, Microjak said: looks great! Ive never been to a gaming convention but would like to,although my credit card wouldn't !!!! Any good ones in the UK uuuup North? Not up North but I think I'll head to my home town in a few weeks https://www.nottinghamgamingmarket.com/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
susy Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 11 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ allo stand Atari al PGRE oggi Beautiful set up. A fantastic mix of vintage and modern. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben from Plaion Posted September 28 Author Share Posted September 28 5 hours ago, karri said: This looks so neat with no cables. Hmm... What about wireless paddles as well? Wireless all the way for me. Paddles. It's an interesting one, but has some complications, firstly 2600+ Paddle resolution and jitter needs to be improved to 7800+ level, I still don't know if we can do this. Secondly, it's two paddles to one dongle, I'd need to work with the factory to see how they'd be able to do it. Lastly, if the two points above are solved then I think we'd need a wireless paddle pack to be something special as selling them solus might not be attractive enough to shift enough units to warrant them, perhaps they'd need to be released alongside or bundled with a new paddle game. Plus, paddles aren't configured yet with 7800 games, so that would need to be done with the 7800 emulation. Jeez after writing all that, strikes me it's an uphill struggle, as much as I would love to see it 😅 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 4 hours ago, Microjak said: looks great! Ive never been to a gaming convention but would like to,although my credit card wouldn't !!!! Any good ones in the UK uuuup North? Not uuuuup North either 😉 In November the Centre for Computing History in Cambridge hosts the annual Retro Computer Festival on the 9th and 10th. It will be a good show for your credit card, because it is primarily a demonstration convention, not a "sales" convention 😉 https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/72253/Retro-Computer-Festival-2024-Saturday-9th-November/ Together with my friends of the Dutch "Atari Invasion"-team we will be there as an exhibitor to bring some Atari to the party 😃 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 38 minutes ago, Ben from Plaion said: Wireless all the way for me. Paddles. It's an interesting one, but has some complications, firstly 2600+ Paddle resolution and jitter needs to be improved to 7800+ level, I still don't know if we can do this. Secondly, it's two paddles to one dongle, I'd need to work with the factory to see how they'd be able to do it. Lastly, if the two points above are solved then I think we'd need a wireless paddle pack to be something special as selling them solus might not be attractive enough to shift enough units to warrant them, perhaps they'd need to be released alongside or bundled with a new paddle game. Plus, paddles aren't configured yet with 7800 games, so that would need to be done with the 7800 emulation. Jeez after writing all that, strikes me it's an uphill struggle, as much as I would love to see it 😅 It does not sound so complicated just send something like: button 1 - button pressed rotation 0..200 - rotation value of paddle It is just 2 bytes to send per paddle that you spam all the time. You also need to send the paddle_id I assume. The screen is just 160 pixels wide so 200 is plenty for resolution. A simple potentiometer and an rc-circuit similar to the 7800 hw would produce good results. The code in the 7800 to read paddles is just *VBLANK = 0; // start charging the capacitor Y1 = 200; do { strobe(WSYNC); // 3 cycles if (*INPT0 & 0x80) break; // 7 cycles Y1--; } while (Y1); // Looping 5 cycles *VBLANK = 0x80; // purge the charge The same could be created on a simple micro-controller. Jitter is always a problem in any mechanical sensors. You could think about the new value of the paddle as a magnet. You place the new value somewhere and let the sent value tug towards it with a realistic speed. In case of jitter the magnet jumps back and forth but the sent value appears realistic. It is not rocket science. Oh wait! It is actually rocket science used in drones and many other applications. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Karnov Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 11 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: 7800+ on the Atari booth at PGRE today Machine looks fantastic 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+littaum Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Progress! The 7800 Rampage cart which had troubles reading on the 2600+ at last year's PRGE had no problems on the 7800+ at this year's PRGE. The wireless 7800 controller is nifty too (and just to dispel rumors..the harmony cart pictured is in single game development mode with a 4K game...that loads fine too) 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 1 hour ago, littaum said: Progress! The 7800 Rampage cart which had troubles reading on the 2600+ at last year's PRGE had no problems on the 7800+ at this year's PRGE. The wireless 7800 controller is nifty too (and just to dispel rumors..the harmony cart pictured is in single game development mode with a 4K game...that loads fine too) Rampage runs fine on the 2600+ too when you upgrade it to the latest firmware 😉 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane857 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 59 minutes ago, Fred_M said: Rampage runs fine on the 2600+ too when you upgrade it to the latest firmware 😉 Great port to the 7800. Personally thou, I think the Sega Master System port is closer to the arcade.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atariman72 Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 12 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Not up North but I think I'll head to my home town in a few weeks https://www.nottinghamgamingmarket.com/ There is Play Expo in Blackpool next weekend. Always a good show. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microjak Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 8 hours ago, atariman72 said: There is Play Expo in Blackpool next weekend. Always a good show. Thats not far from me,I'll look into it, thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dionoid Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 14 hours ago, littaum said: … nice to see a copy of Amoeba Jump on the table. Is it working on the 7800+? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetmanUK Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ben from Plaion said: Not up North but I think I'll head to my home town in a few weeks https://www.nottinghamgamingmarket.com/ On 9/28/2024 at 8:54 AM, Microjak said: looks great! Ive never been to a gaming convention but would like to,although my credit card wouldn't !!!! Any good ones in the UK uuuup North? I've been to gaming conventions in Manchester and Blackpool. Although not a convention, and no games for sale, if you want to play classic arcade and console games Bury is the home of Arcade Club, which is now quite famous, it's been around for years. It's a really good day out and serves food and alcohol too. Edited September 29 by JetmanUK 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371209-atari-7800-announced-along-with-10-new-games-and-2-new-controllers/page/25/#findComment-5540722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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