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27 minutes ago, Eagle said:

What is the difference in hardware between 2600+ and 7800+?

 

Other than coming with the newest (most compatible) firmware, a different plastic case (7800) and wireless controllers/dongles, it is the same device (based on what has been released/reported).

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18 minutes ago, MattelAquarius said:

 

Other than coming with the newest (most compatible) firmware, a different plastic case (7800) and wireless controllers/dongles, it is the same device (based on what has been released/reported).

There are other changes. 
 

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At 1 AM EST 8/22/2024, The 7800 Pro Gamer and Funkmaster V dive head first into their thoughts about the upcoming Atari 7800+ that was announced yesterday. The games: Berzerk, Frenzy, Caverns of Mars, Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest, the M Network collection, the Epyx Collection, Asteroids Deluxe, Space Duel, The Realsports Collection, the design, the specs, the rumors, the wireless controllers, and of course- the return of Bob Decresenzo... and his aptly named new game "Bounty Bob Strikes Back"  Join us live for the chat or watch the replay the next day! #atari #atari7800 #retrogaming

 

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2 hours ago, Cousin Vinnie said:

At 1 AM EST 8/22/2024, The 7800 Pro Gamer and Funkmaster V dive head first into their thoughts about the upcoming Atari 7800+ that was announced yesterday. The games: Berzerk, Frenzy, Caverns of Mars, Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest, the M Network collection, the Epyx Collection, Asteroids Deluxe, Space Duel, The Realsports Collection, the design, the specs, the rumors, the wireless controllers, and of course- the return of Bob Decresenzo... and his aptly named new game "Bounty Bob Strikes Back"  Join us live for the chat or watch the replay the next day! #atari #atari7800 #retrogaming

 

Hey, didn't you get fired? 😉

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9 hours ago, SS said:

I am wondering how/if the official Atari "Berzerk" release will differ from the version included on the "Frenzy" AA cart?  

In the main thread I asked Al about it and he said "Yes, they are the same games, however, the title screens have been changed to reflect ownership of the IP by Atari.  The games are no longer 2-in-1, Frenzy and Berzerk live alone in each of those two cartridges.". I said it was a bit cheeky to split them up seeing as the reason Berzerk was included is that it was simple enough for Bob to turn off features of Frenzy in the code and that the AA release was therefore better value so Al replied "The boxed version of Frenzy in the AtariAge Store is $50.00 (and I'm out of boxes at the moment), so $30 for each of the games with a box seems fair to me.  This also means Berzerk gets more attention, with a proper box, manual, and cartridge label.  It's likely these new games will replace what's currently in AtariAge  Store when they overlap like this, but that won't likely always be the case, depends on the individual games."

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3 hours ago, JagChris said:

And the fact that Atari hasn't issued an official patch for the 2600+ yet is rather disconcerting.

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The 'community' built experimental software and the 'official' software is one and the same thing.

 

Re-stocks of the 2600+ have already shipped with updated firmware.

 

Latest firmware update, with all needed files for the 2600+ console, in a one archive download including step-by-step instructions, is here:

 

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14 hours ago, SmittyB said:

In the main thread I asked Al about it and he said "Yes, they are the same games, however, the title screens have been changed to reflect ownership of the IP by Atari.  The games are no longer 2-in-1, Frenzy and Berzerk live alone in each of those two cartridges.". I said it was a bit cheeky to split them up seeing as the reason Berzerk was included is that it was simple enough for Bob to turn off features of Frenzy in the code and that the AA release was therefore better value so Al replied "The boxed version of Frenzy in the AtariAge Store is $50.00 (and I'm out of boxes at the moment), so $30 for each of the games with a box seems fair to me.  This also means Berzerk gets more attention, with a proper box, manual, and cartridge label.  It's likely these new games will replace what's currently in AtariAge  Store when they overlap like this, but that won't likely always be the case, depends on the individual games."

I'm fine with Berzerk being it's own cart, but I'm disappointed that it won't feature any quality of life improvements. With the cart all to itself and possibly using a different audio chip, it'd be great to have cleaner speech, ideally without pausing the game.

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2 hours ago, MadBomber said:

I'm fine with Berzerk being it's own cart, but I'm disappointed that it won't feature any quality of life improvements. With the cart all to itself and possibly using a different audio chip, it'd be great to have cleaner speech, ideally without pausing the game.

It's not as simple as just throw a different audio chip into the cart and the game will produce cleaner speech. 

 

It would require significant (re)programming, possibly entire re-writes of the audio portions and its integration throughout the game, along with testing, and tweaking, fixes and patching, for arguably very little gain or nearly insignificant difference to how the speech currently performs under the game.

 

Available resources are much better spent elsewhere, like working on another (new) game.

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3 hours ago, Trebor said:

 

Re-stocks of the 2600+ have already shipped with updated firmware.

 

Latest firmware update, with all needed files for the 2600+ console, in a one archive download including step-by-step instructions, is here:

 

Thanks. I just watched a video where the creator said he was waiting for an official postiing but there wasn't one and they finally used this instead. So there are people out there not widely aware that this has moved to the official status.

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On 8/21/2024 at 12:23 PM, JagChris said:

Hey, didn't you get fired? 😉

Alright I'm watching this and letting the commercials run so they get some coin. 

 

Make sure you guys let the commercials run so that the Atari network doesn't 'fire his ass' again.

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