John Stamos Mullet Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Fred_M said: AFAIK this has not been communicated yet... Please let @raz0red do the communication. Raz0red isn't the one working on Controller input changes, that's someone else. I also didn't communicate anything one way or the other. I merely asked that people not speculate based on nothing towards the negative. Edited October 18 by John Stamos Mullet Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 21 minutes ago, shane857 said: Just hopeful speculation bro.. You're being "hopeful" by assuming it won't ever be added? I'd hate to see it when you're really down. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 8 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: I merely asked that people not speculate based on nothing towards the negative. I think everyone is allowed to speculate here, also when the speculation is negative in your opinion. I don't think it is wise to try to shut them up. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Fred_M said: I think everyone is allowed to speculate here, also when the speculation is negative in your opinion. I don't think it is wise to try to shut them up. So you don't think it's negative to assume functionality that doesn't exist yet - isn't being worked on, and won't ever be added? That seems like the most negative take on that subject I can think of. Also - I have just as much right to "shut them up" as you do to try to shut me up, like you are here. What I can tell you as FACT is that attempting to add the other controllers to the 2600+ firmware IS being worked on. This isn't my opinion, nor is it speculation. Edited October 18 by John Stamos Mullet 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 34 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: So you don't think it's negative to assume functionality that doesn't exist yet - isn't being worked on, and won't ever be added? That seems like the most negative take on that subject I can think of. Also - I have just as much right to "shut them up" as you do to try to shut me up, like you are here. What I can tell you as FACT is that attempting to add the other controllers to the 2600+ firmware IS being worked on. This isn't my opinion, nor is it speculation. Ofcourse I think it is negative to assume that the driving controllers/keyboard controllers might not be supported. We agree about that, but that does not mean people are not allowed to speculate that the driving controllers/keyboard controllers might not be supported. I never tried to shut you up. I tried to make you understand that it is not helping communicating about work OTHER people are doing. For me it is nothing more than hearsay. You can talk about facts, but we have to believe you without any evidence. You wrote that (other) people (than you) are "working" on a solution. So you are speculating too about the support of these controllers, because you also don't know if they will be supported. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripweade Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 (edited) I've kept an eye on this thread, and it's no fun reading the bickering. For me, yeah, I would LOVE keypad and driving support, but it's not something that will get me down. I am just LOVING this machine as it is with the updates that have happened. I won't lose sleep if I can't play Indy 500 with the driving controllers or Star Raiders with the keypad. With the many, MANY other games I can play, I am beyond satisfied! Heck, I'm so satisfied that after playing a game, I might need a smoke. And I quit smoking years ago! Edited October 18 by Ripweade Typos 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, Fred_M said: I never tried to shut you up. I tried to make you understand that it is not helping communicating about work OTHER people are doing. For me it is nothing more than hearsay. You can talk about facts, but we have to believe you without any evidence. Why do you have a problem with me communicating things that I have direct knowledge of? The people who have shared this info with me don't have a problem with me sharing it. We've discussed it and I know what I am allowed to share and not share and when. The only person upset about it here is you. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite.pies Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 The download is now working. It's been moved to Dropbox, and you can download without having to log in to anything. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Posted October 19 Author Share Posted October 19 I currently have the beta 1.1 rev 2 installed. Currently I have no issues with any of the joystick games I have, and the only problem with paddle games is the known jitter issue, which is most prominent in Super Breakout, so I don't play that one. Would there be any advantage for me in updating to the firmware listed on the Atari page, or should I just leave well enough alone? Especially if there is no improvement in the paddle jitter issue. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 15 minutes ago, Gabe said: I currently have the beta 1.1 rev 2 installed. Currently I have no issues with any of the joystick games I have, and the only problem with paddle games is the known jitter issue, which is most prominent in Super Breakout, so I don't play that one. Would there be any advantage for me in updating to the firmware listed on the Atari page, or should I just leave well enough alone? Especially if there is no improvement in the paddle jitter issue. I find the Experimental Firmware Update is outstanding! No improvement to Super Breakout as of yet but there is so much more compatibility with the Experimental Firmware Update from @raz0red Thread. In my opinion it’s worth updating to this Firmware. I believe this will be the official release soon. I believe the Firmware from the Atari page is an older version, but will soon be updated. 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 iam trying to update but it wont recognize my atari 2600+ get usb error what to do ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 9 hours ago, John Stamos Mullet said: Why do you have a problem with me communicating things that I have direct knowledge of? The people who have shared this info with me don't have a problem with me sharing it. We've discussed it and I know what I am allowed to share and not share and when. The only person upset about it here is you. Because you often create confusion with a lot of your remarks and create so much room for misinterpretation. 10 hours ago, Ripweade said: I've kept an eye on this thread, and it's no fun reading the bickering. You are right, my bickering ends now 😉 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 10 minutes ago, davy said: iam trying to update but it wont recognize my atari 2600+ get usb error what to do ? Try using different USB ports if you can. Also check the connection to the back of the 2600+. Unplug it then plug it back in, then try again. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 @Ben from Plaion I tested the official firmware update (with new IO board), no problems for me as usual. But thinking of people not very skilled I would make same changes. First of all, to download the zip from Dropbox you have to do many clicks in Dropbox website. I think there shouldn't be: - zipped folders inside the main downloaded zip - folders inside folders with the same name - _MACOSX folder. I would add that image: Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 18 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Try using different USB ports if you can. Also check the connection to the back of the 2600+. Unplug it then plug it back in, then try again. did that no luck iam installing my old laptop maybe lucky then 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, davy said: did that no luck iam installing my old laptop maybe lucky then Keep us posted. I’m sure you’ll get it! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 (edited) no get the jingle but nothing weird nothing in device management Edited October 19 by davy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 25 minutes ago, davy said: no get the jingle but nothing weird nothing in device management I see in your signature that you are already on "Atari2600 Plus EXP-FW v1.1x-r6" At the moment there is no newer version available. @AtariYMás009 just confirmed this in another thread. 12 minutes ago, AtariYMás009 said: The 2.0 update is not even a new one, they just changed the name to an older version of the experimental firmware. I recommend that you install the latest versions of dumper and firmware that are on this forum. So what has changed since you updated the 2600+? Did you use the USB-A to USB-C cable that was included with the 2600+? Have you followed the steps written here: https://atari.com/blogs/newsroom/updating-atari-2600-firmware ? It is important to follow these steps litterally, so for example to upgrade the dumper software you have to switch the TV-type to Black and White and turn on the 2600+ with Game Select pushed down. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 i did do it right but get this error Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 13 minutes ago, davy said: i did do it right but get this error Luckily I am Dutch too, so I can read it 😀 That is a message of Windows telling you that the connected device is generating a error on the USB connection. If you have this error message on both computers (you wrote that you would try it on an old laptop too) then the problem is probably not caused by the computer/laptop itself, but you can check that by connecting another USB device to the same computer. Please do a restart of your computer after you see this error message to make sure your USB port on your computer has been reset. Try to use another USB-A to USB-C cable to rule out problems with the cable. If the problem still exists there might be a problem with the USB-C connector of the 2600+. Here is an article about this error in Dutch, maybe it is helpful to you: https://www.pcwebplus.nl/problemen-met-usb-poorten-en-apparaten-verhelpen/ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 i think its the connector because i tryed different cabels too Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 1 minute ago, davy said: i think its the connector because i tryed different cabels too Please do a google search, there is quite a lot information about this error. For other members who might can help. This is the error message in English. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 fixed that it does do nothing at all now get gingle i look in device management and nothing threre Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fred_M Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 48 minutes ago, davy said: fixed that it does do nothing at all now get gingle i look in device management and nothing threre Just to be sure, if you own an Evercade console the drivers of the Evercade are conflicting with the drivers of the 2600+. So if you have an Evercade you must uninstall the drivers of the Evercade or use another computer. more info here: Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 new laptop did not used it for updating Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/371508-official-firmware-update/page/3/#findComment-5551537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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