Atari IP list 2024

[PowerDubs]

It's posted on Atari's homepage... so it's fair game to post.

 

Atari Group updated 2024 IP catalog

 

Contains-

Atari

Digital Eclipse

NightDive

GT Interactive

Infogrames

MicroProse

Stern Electronics

Accolade

M Network

Intellivision

Other

Hardware

 

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1e-tl9Oqwnr78879Lnne_uhlsGkPWFK_z428ZmUaJjog/edit?pli=1#slide=id.g2ff92e3406f_0_0

 

[+jeremiahjt]

Nice to see the list. Some things I noticed.

 

Digital Eclipse has both Cloudy Mountain and Night Stalker listed under it. Cloudy Mountain is supposedly finished, release it. Finish up Night Stalker and get that released, too.

 

Iron Soldier is listed in there. I do not know if they always had it, or bought it with a recent acquisition. Either way, put those two excellent Jaguar games on Atari 50. And BrainDead13, but we already knew about Atari owning that one, but it should be on Atari 50 also.

 

The CX-22 Trak-Ball is there under hardware, but not the CX-80. @Ben from Plaion, maybe you should do some prep work for a potential CX22+. I know you prefer the CX-80, but you got to do what you go to do.

 

I see the unreleased M Network game Sea Battle that was on Atari Flashback Classics vol. 3 and Atari Vault, but I do not see the other unreleased M Network game that was on those collections, Sword Fight.

 

I also see Checkered Flag. I am pretty sure the Jaguar game is owned by Rebellion, so this is probably the Lynx game, or maybe the franchise. The question is is it enough to release the Lynx game by themselves.

[TopDrawer]

Digital Eclipse owns Death Jr.??? Aw man, I'd love to buy a remastered collection! One of my favorite PSP games for sure.

Also, pretty surprised they own so little of the original Infogrames game library. Quite sad tbh.

Wouldn't they also own the Humongous Entertainment game library after the Billionsoft deal?

Edited September 18 by TopDrawer

[zzip]

I don't see "4th and Inches" under Accolade..   Is that why they had to pull the VCS release?

 

Also under Accolade.   Summer Challenge and Winter Challenge.    Are these the Tynesoft games?

[TopDrawer]

2 hours ago, zzip said:

I don't see "4th and Inches" under Accolade..   Is that why they had to pull the VCS release?

The game's owned by Ziggurat, apparently.

[TopDrawer]

Also, interesting that Atari owns the Intellivision brand and its games' library... But not the rights of the original console? That's odd.

[mr_me]

4 hours ago, TopDrawer said:

Also, interesting that Atari owns the Intellivision brand and its games' library... But not the rights of the original console? That's odd.

Patents would have expired long ago. They should own copyrights to the firmware and they are in the IP list as Intellivision Exec, GROM, Intellivoice ROM, ECS Exec. The Keyboard Component Exec is missing from the list.

 

They listed Super Challenge Baseball and International Soccer under Intellivision IP although the Intellivision games weren't published under those names. Major League Baseball was also published as Big League Baseball or Baseball, NASL Soccer as Soccer.

 

I thought the copyrights to Spina the Bee and Super Soccer went to Nice Ideas, the Mattel Electronics spinoff in France.

 

 

[mr_me]

On 9/18/2024 at 10:23 AM, jeremiahjt said:

...

I see the unreleased M Network game Sea Battle that was on Atari Flashback Classics vol. 3 and Atari Vault, but I do not see the other unreleased M Network game that was on those collections, Sword Fight.

....

They should also have Atari 2600 Treasure of Tarmin. Mattel Electronics was suppose to publish it as an AD&D title but that text might either not be on the cartridge or could be hacked out.

 

Atari 2600 Loco-motion is based on the Konami game. They don't normally list games they own that require third party licensing.

 

Other Atari 2600 titles listed like Dual Scrolling and Flashlight were tech demos, and Cumulus, Flapper were in early development, and Monkey Business half completed according to IntellivisionLives.

 

 

[Mockduck]

Treasure of Tarmin will also need a de-brand unless they want to get a new D&D license from Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast. 

[zzip]

7 minutes ago, Mockduck said:

Treasure of Tarmin will also need a de-brand unless they want to get a new D&D license from Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast. 

I assumed that's why they called it Treasure of Tarmin and removed the AD&D branding?

[mr_me]

2 hours ago, zzip said:

I assumed that's why they called it Treasure of Tarmin and removed the AD&D branding?

AD&D Treasure of Tarmin was the original title to distinguish it from the first Intellivision AD&D cartridge. Intellivision Treasure of Tarmin has been published in retro collections as "Minotaur".

Edited September 19 by mr_me

[Hwlngmad]

I would think that releasing an Intellivision compilation shouldn't be difficult to do as one would think going with the alternate titles and/or the update versions of various games would be simple to do.

 

Also, it is good to see Atari having various things to put out and/or pull from.  Hopefully we will continue to get new(ish), interesting, and exciting products.

[Raiu]

The Intellivision list doesn't include Astrosmash (as expected, since that IP was sold separately) or Sea Battle (less expected; downright surprising, even), and also has Space Spartans listed three times (once in French, once in German).  If I haven't miscounted, that means there's only 77 Intellivision games they own, so I wonder what the rest of the "more than 200 titles" are that they said they got from the acquisition.

[mr_me]

4 hours ago, Raiu said:

The Intellivision list doesn't include Astrosmash (as expected, since that IP was sold separately) or Sea Battle (less expected; downright surprising, even), and also has Space Spartans listed three times (once in French, once in German).  If I haven't miscounted, that means there's only 77 Intellivision games they own, so I wonder what the rest of the "more than 200 titles" are that they said they got from the acquisition.

That list is far from complete. They aren't listing any titles they should own that need third party licensing. They listed some developer utilities, tech demos, unfinished games but there are others that aren't listed. Intellivision Night Stalker, AD&D (aka Crown of kings or Adventure or Cloudy Mountain), and USCF Chess are also missing from the list. They haven't listed any titles they should own for some other systems e.g. IBM PC, Apple II. Still don't see getting to 200.

 

Sea Battle is listed under Aquarius although I didn't think there was an Aquarius Sea Battle. And there is a fourth Space Spartans with Italian speech.

Edited September 22 by mr_me

[CharlesEChuck]

Would be nice if someone close to the matter could clarify what the (S) means after some titles. Looks like most of them (not all though) got the remake treatment by Atari. I wonder if that's the IP we can expect new games of in the near future?

Edited September 22 by CharlesEChuck

[Lord Mushroom]

34 minutes ago, CharlesEChuck said:

Would be nice if someone close to the matter could clarify what the (S) means after some titles. Looks like most of them (not all though) got the remake treatment by Atari. I wonder if that's the IP we can expect new games of in the near future?

Could it mean "Series", as in representing more than one game?

[CharlesEChuck]

3 hours ago, Lord Mushroom said:

Could it mean "Series", as in representing more than one game?

Thanks, that's quite an idea. But then I think RCT, Gravitar, qomp and maybe a few others should also have one. I really wonder what that means.

[KidGameR186496]

On 9/18/2024 at 10:23 AM, jeremiahjt said:

Nice to see the list. Some things I noticed.

 

Digital Eclipse has both Cloudy Mountain and Night Stalker listed under it. Cloudy Mountain is supposedly finished, release it. Finish up Night Stalker and get that released, too.

 

Iron Soldier is listed in there. I do not know if they always had it, or bought it with a recent acquisition. Either way, put those two excellent Jaguar games on Atari 50. And BrainDead13, but we already knew about Atari owning that one, but it should be on Atari 50 also.

 

The CX-22 Trak-Ball is there under hardware, but not the CX-80. @Ben from Plaion, maybe you should do some prep work for a potential CX22+. I know you prefer the CX-80, but you got to do what you go to do.

 

I see the unreleased M Network game Sea Battle that was on Atari Flashback Classics vol. 3 and Atari Vault, but I do not see the other unreleased M Network game that was on those collections, Sword Fight.

 

I also see Checkered Flag. I am pretty sure the Jaguar game is owned by Rebellion, so this is probably the Lynx game, or maybe the franchise. The question is is it enough to release the Lynx game by themselves.

WHOA! They finally have the first Iron Soldier under their wing? The only issue i see with a potencial Iron Soldier collection are Telegames and Vatical Entertainment, since they published Iron Soldier 2 and 3 respectively...

[+jeremiahjt]

33 minutes ago, KidGameR186496 said:

WHOA! They finally have the first Iron Soldier under their wing? The only issue i see with a potencial Iron Soldier collection are Telegames and Vatical Entertainment, since they published Iron Soldier 2 and 3 respectively...

Iron Soldier has the (s) following it, which I am pretty sure means multiple games. Maybe they have the first two, but not the third.

[+Fred_M]

I think the hardware IP list is very weird. Maybe it is incomplete or there are some other factors why a lot of Atari hardware is not in the list?

 

Examples:

- The Atari 400, 800 and XEGS are listed, but not the 600XL, 800XL, 1400XL, 1450XLD, 1200XL, 65XE, 130XE and 800XE.

- The Atari 410 program recorder is listed, but not the 1010, XC11 and XC12 (the XC12 is actually a Phonemark program recorder, so maybe that's why?)

- The Atari ST and Mega ST are listed, but not the TT, STE and the Falcon.

- The CX40 joystick is listed,but not the CX10 joystick. Also the CX78 (now available again!) is not listed. And what about the CX50 keyboard controllers, CX23 Kids controller, CX21 Video Touch Pad, CX80 trackball, XG1 Lightgun?

 

I can go on and on with for example printers, external ST disk-drives, portfolio accessoires, Pong variants, modems.....

[RollOut]

21 hours ago, jeremiahjt said:

Iron Soldier has the (s) following it, which I am pretty sure means multiple games. Maybe they have the first two, but not the third.

I hope so. IS 1 & 2 are some of my favorite games on the Jaguar and some of my favorite mech games ever. I would love to see them re-released (add on to Atari 50?) or have Atari do something new with the IP. There aren't enough recent mech simulators  out there (one of my favorite genres that don't get enough love anymore). 

[leech]

18 hours ago, Fred_M said:

I think the hardware IP list is very weird. Maybe it is incomplete or there are some other factors why a lot of Atari hardware is not in the list?

 

Examples:

- The Atari 400, 800 and XEGS are listed, but not the 600XL, 800XL, 1400XL, 1450XLD, 1200XL, 65XE, 130XE and 800XE.

- The Atari 410 program recorder is listed, but not the 1010, XC11 and XC12 (the XC12 is actually a Phonemark program recorder, so maybe that's why?)

- The Atari ST and Mega ST are listed, but not the TT, STE and the Falcon.

- The CX40 joystick is listed,but not the CX10 joystick. Also the CX78 (now available again!) is not listed. And what about the CX50 keyboard controllers, CX23 Kids controller, CX21 Video Touch Pad, CX80 trackball, XG1 Lightgun?

 

I can go on and on with for example printers, external ST disk-drives, portfolio accessoires, Pong variants, modems.....

I was just thinking randomly, if they were to do another 'plus' console, would people want an XEGS+ or a 5200+?  Is the Hardware IP about case design, or actual chips/internals?  I bet an XEGS with a USB keyboard for it and keeping the SIO port would be hailed as being an amazing thing for 8bit lovers!  Though, it could get more complicated as I think people would want at least a ram expansion...

[mr_me]

On 9/26/2024 at 4:50 AM, leech said:

I was just thinking randomly, if they were to do another 'plus' console, would people want an XEGS+ or a 5200+?  Is the Hardware IP about case design, or actual chips/internals? ...

They should own the copyright on the firmware, i.e. the OS rom, Basic rom, that's required to make these things. They can claim trade dress on the physical look of the system and the trademark of its name but they should have a product in the market to support those claims. Any patents would have expired.

[+Nathan Strum]

Hmmm. I wonder when they reacquired the rights to Math Gran Prix?

[+jeremiahjt]

9 minutes ago, Nathan Strum said:

Hmmm. I wonder when they reacquired the rights to Math Gran Prix?

It was part of the Accolade/GT Interactive/MicroProse deal. When Atari sold that stuff during the bankruptcy in 2013, Math Gran Prix was lumped in with some educational stuff that came back in the Accolade deal.