John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Just now, JPF997 said: This is the only thing I agree with you on so far, beautiful people in fiction and in real life don't exist just so that basement dwellers can jack off to them, if you have a healthy mind you can appreciate beauty without succumbing to dark thoughts and desires. Dude. You already tried to claim that "Normal people aren't fine with this". 1. Nobody who looks at a cartoon character for more than 5 minutes and thinks about their attractiveness level is "normal". 2. There is nothing wrong with the character in this photo. In fact, I would argue that it takes far more talent to create a realistic looking video game character than it does a cheap looking oversexualized anime character. 31 minutes ago, JPF997 said: People like you might think that the current degeneration of beauty standards are perfectly fine, normal people aren't fine with this : Alloy PS4 vs PS5 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 22 minutes ago, atarifan88 said: FYI, not everybody who grew up in the 80's are Anime fans. Also, I'm not sure Atari ever abandoned anyone. If anything, people abandoned Atari because of the crap games some of the third parties were putting out. Honestly, they don't need Anime to make their games fun again. It's more the people who grew up in the 90s who embraced anime, I think, or at least the very tail-end of the 80s, after Nintendo & co started bringing over Japanese titles. It was not something I was exposed to other than watching "Speed Racer "in the 70s. It seems that the millenials & Gen Z are far more into it, I understand why today's Atari might embrace it, even if I doesn't appeal to me. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) *Reaches into pocket and pulls out note from doctor which says: "Beautiful people in fiction and in real life don't exist just so that basement dwellers can jack off to them, if you have a healthy mind you can appreciate beauty without succumbing to dark thoughts and desires" *Exhales deeply and breathes "one day at a time, one day at a time." *Puts note back in pocket Edited October 15 by Lost Monkey 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: Dude. You already tried to claim that "Normal people aren't fine with this". They aren't, just look at the sales numbers of Stellar Blade vs Concord. 7 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: 1. Nobody who looks at a cartoon character for more than 5 minutes and thinks about their attractiveness level is "normal". Beauty and attractiveness are two different things, I guess you never heard of the concept known as Platonic Beauty. 7 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: 2. There is nothing wrong with the character in this photo. In fact, I would argue that it takes far more talent to create a realistic looking video game character than it does a cheap looking oversexualized anime character. Once again real looking doesn't mean that it has to be ugly, Lara Croft was beautiful and realistic in the Reboot trilogy, Abby in Last of US part 2 will always be an unattractive bitch. Edited October 15 by JPF997 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 1 hour ago, John Stamos Mullet said: Here's an alternative to this thread's bad take: Why in the hell is nearly every video game now employing an Anime style theme? Why does every female character look like an incel's waifu pillow? Can we calm down with the bandwagon creepiness and just go back to concentrating on making good games? Just quoting this for the beauty of "incel's waifu pillow". That's a masterpiece. 3 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JPF997 said: They aren't, just look at the sales numbers of Stellar Blade vs Concord. Beauty and attractiveness are two different things, I guess you never heard of the concept known as Platonic Beauty. Once again real looking doesn't mean that it has to be ugly, Lara Croft was beautiful and realistic in the Reboot trilogy, Abby in Last of US part 2 will always be an unattractive shemale. Some day there may be a set of goal posts heavy enough that you can't lift. Edited October 15 by Lost Monkey 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, JPF997 said: Abby in Last of US part 2 will always be an unattractive bitch. Seek professional help. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 Just now, John Stamos Mullet said: Seek professional help. If you like this monstrosity then please seek professional help 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 1 minute ago, John Stamos Mullet said: Seek professional help. That is the edited version you quoted. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, Lost Monkey said: That is the edited version you quoted. The sentiment is the same. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 42 minutes ago, JPF997 said: People like you might think that the current degeneration of beauty standards are perfectly fine, normal people aren't fine with this : Alloy PS4 vs PS5 I can't tell if they purposely uglified her or the more advanced graphics now allows them to display details like wrinkles and blemishes that has the overall effect of making her look worse. This is an issue people are having with the new Until Dawn remaster.. focus on details of characters and objects, but also made the atmosphere of the game worse in the process. I would argue Horizon Zero Dawn and Until Dawn were both amazing looking PS4 games and did not really need remastering 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, zzip said: I can't tell if they purposely uglified her or the more advanced graphics now allows them to display details like wrinkles and blemishes that has the overall effect of making her look worse. This is an issue people are having with the new Until Dawn remaster.. focus on details of characters and objects, but also made the atmosphere of the game worse in the process. I would argue Horizon Zero Dawn and Until Dawn were both amazing looking PS4 games and did not really need remastering They made her look human. There is nothing "ugly" about that character unless you have the unrealistic beauty expectations of a 13 year old boy. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 11 minutes ago, Stephen said: Just quoting this for the beauty of "incel's waifu pillow". That's a masterpiece. How many times have you talked about "incel waifu pillows" this week? I think our little friend Stephen has something he wants to tell us. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 Just now, John Stamos Mullet said: They made her look human. There is nothing "ugly" about that character unless you have the unrealistic beauty expectations of a 13 year old boy. "Unrealistic beauty expections" you mean actually leaving the house for one day and noticing that the average woman on the streets is much more beautiful than the ones portrayed in modern western triple A games ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 2 minutes ago, JPF997 said: "Unrealistic beauty expections" you mean actually leaving the house for one day and noticing that the average woman on the streets is much more beautiful than the ones portrayed in modern western triple A games ? Ok - well apparently you don't live in Ohio. 2 8 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSwampAss Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, Horizon comparison post. West has fallen. I am parroting intellectual thoughts *bows*. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Just now, Lost Monkey said: Ok - well apparently you don't live in Ohio. and he wants all his video games to be full of K-Pop band members. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 (edited) 16 minutes ago, zzip said: I can't tell if they purposely uglified her or the more advanced graphics now allows them to display details like wrinkles and blemishes that has the overall effect of making her look worse. This is an issue people are having with the new Until Dawn remaster.. focus on details of characters and objects, but also made the atmosphere of the game worse in the process. I would argue Horizon Zero Dawn and Until Dawn were both amazing looking PS4 games and did not really need remastering They 100% uglified her, hell in the original game she was already uglier than the model she was based on but now it's somehow even worse Alloy ( game ) vs real Alloy (Hannah Hoekstra) Edited October 15 by JPF997 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 This thread turned into some gamergate shit the instant someone said "incel waifu pillow" 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, JPF997 said: They 100% uglified her, hell in the original game she was already uglier than the model she was based on but now it's somehow even worse Alloy ( game ) vs real Alloy (Hannah Hoekstra) Dear God! The HORROR! I haven't felt this sick since they did the same thing to Ms PacMan... 1 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: This thread turned into some gamergate shit the instant someone said "incel waifu pillow" Thread doesn't go the way user expected (said user didn't even create the original thread to begin with) IT'S GAMERGATE'S FAULT!!! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSwampAss Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 6 minutes ago, John Stamos Mullet said: This thread turned into some gamergate shit the instant someone said "incel waifu pillow" This shit is insane. I'm a big anime guy but this "western devs are making the characters ugly on purpose" stuff doesn't really click with me. and the guy did have a point. I really hate being lumped in with "incel waifu guys" but they certainly do make up at least a tiny bit of the people who eat that stuff up. On whether Atari should keep doing anime? Sure, as long as they keep working on good games first. Personally I wanna see a variety in art direction. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, LilSwampAss said: and the guy did have a point. I really hate being lumped in with "incel waifu guys" but they certainly do make up at least a tiny bit of the people who eat that stuff up. It's way more than a tiny bit. A simple internet image search for the word "anime" on any of the largest search providers shows that the vast majority of anime content is overtly sexualized, and much of it is either underaged, rape, or incest themed. Shit, if you just browse to the front page of reddit while not signed in, and keep hitting refresh, it's like a slot machine of creepy anime images. Edited October 15 by John Stamos Mullet 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, LilSwampAss said: This thread turned into some gamergate shit the instant someone said "incel waifu pillow" well don't say "incel waifu pillow" then... 26 minutes ago, JPF997 said: They 100% uglified her, hell in the original game she was already uglier than the model she was based on but now it's somehow even worse Alloy ( game ) vs real Alloy (Hannah Hoekstra) i don't see a difference except for the hair. But I think Aloy's hairstyle is more fitting for a tribal warrior than the real actress. So I don't fault that choice. There are better examples of what you are talking about out there. I don't think this game was being ugly on purpose, it was was quite beautiful Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 23 minutes ago, JPF997 said: Thread doesn't go the way user expected (said user didn't even create the original thread to begin with) IT'S GAMERGATE'S FAULT!!! Nah, this thread went exactly as expected. I made one post about my distaste for anime themed games, and you went on a fully unhinged conniption fit. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373109-atari-is-finally-embracing-their-japanese-heritage/page/7/#findComment-5549313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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