MateusSolo Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 On 10/20/2024 at 5:02 PM, wasabialt said: There will be no Intellivision games, only games for 2600 (M-Networks) and other systems that are already available in the collection (like the 800). HUGE miss. The DLC is called the First Console War, and as far as I know, no war is played by a single entity alone. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5552938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 18 minutes ago, MateusSolo said: HUGE miss. The DLC is called the First Console War, and as far as I know, no war is played by a single entity alone. Note that it was just his opinion that there's not going to be any Intellivision content here. While I'm thinking that he's going to be proved correct, it's not confirmed. And it would seem quite logical to toss in something like Night Stalker to compare and contrast with Dark Cavern when the DLC is about the Intellivision and 2600 console war and there's going to be interviews with some Intellivision people. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5552942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Well, I think the logic behind it is that Atari 50 only offers Atari games or at least games that were released on Atari systems, hence representing Intellivision games by the M Network games. I agree it's a shame not to offer the original INTV games as well especially since they know own them, but I understand their reasoning. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5553038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwlngmad Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I think it is important to keep in mind that Atari 50 is from Atari's perspective. A duh statement, I know. But, I think that with Atari now owning Intellivision and the majority of its gaming catalog I would imagine that some Intellivision collection a la what the Intellivision Flashback console did with the games in its compilation is something that, I would think, is pretty likely at some point. 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5553669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 2 hours ago, Hwlngmad said: I think it is important to keep in mind that Atari 50 is from Atari's perspective. A duh statement, I know. But, I think that with Atari now owning Intellivision and the majority of its gaming catalog I would imagine that some Intellivision collection a la what the Intellivision Flashback console did with the games in its compilation is something that, I would think, is pretty likely at some point. Intellivision 50, perhaps - or did they miss that date, in which case Gold Master 4? 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5553760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 49 minutes ago, Sean_1970 said: Intellivision 50, perhaps - or did they miss that date, in which case Gold Master 4? No, Intellivision 50 would be in 2029/2030... 😅 They could release Intellivision 45 this year, but it doesn't have a nice ring to it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5553813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
famicommander Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Hwlngmad said: I think it is important to keep in mind that Atari 50 is from Atari's perspective. A duh statement, I know. But, I think that with Atari now owning Intellivision and the majority of its gaming catalog I would imagine that some Intellivision collection a la what the Intellivision Flashback console did with the games in its compilation is something that, I would think, is pretty likely at some point. Intellivision as a standalone brand doesn't really have a ton of value, though. Especially since Atari didn't get the rights to stuff like Astrosmash or Shark Shark. I think it only really has mainstream value in a group with the classic Atari consoles. Even when I was a kid there was a tendency for people to lump all pre-NES systems together as "Atari" and I'm in my mid 30s now. Kids these days don't know what the hell an Intellivision is and guys like us have already bought Intellivision Lives (possibly on multiple platforms) or the Intellivision Evercade carts. Some of us even still have our Intellivisions hooked up. But that is a small and ever-diminishing group of people. The arcade library and the 2600 library will always be the main attraction. They are what people will always associate with the Atari name and branding and the pre-NES era of gaming, no matter what.They are what needs to be used to draw people in so they can be exposed to 5200, 7800, Lynx, Jaguar, 8-bit, ST, and Intellivision games. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5553946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwlngmad Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 13 hours ago, famicommander said: Intellivision as a standalone brand doesn't really have a ton of value, though. Especially since Atari didn't get the rights to stuff like Astrosmash or Shark Shark. I think it only really has mainstream value in a group with the classic Atari consoles. Even when I was a kid there was a tendency for people to lump all pre-NES systems together as "Atari" and I'm in my mid 30s now. Kids these days don't know what the hell an Intellivision is and guys like us have already bought Intellivision Lives (possibly on multiple platforms) or the Intellivision Evercade carts. Some of us even still have our Intellivisions hooked up. But that is a small and ever-diminishing group of people. The arcade library and the 2600 library will always be the main attraction. They are what people will always associate with the Atari name and branding and the pre-NES era of gaming, no matter what.They are what needs to be used to draw people in so they can be exposed to 5200, 7800, Lynx, Jaguar, 8-bit, ST, and Intellivision games. True, Intellivision as a standalone brand doesn't have a lot of cache. That being said, it does have some value and I believe a collection of its games a la Atari 50, albeit a scaled-downed version, would sell as the Intellivision Flashback console done by AtGames did well enough to warrant a 2nd version that was ultimately done in when Tommy Tallarico bought Intellivision and gifted all of us with one of greatest vaporware consoles of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5554166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 I am still holding out hope for a release of the two D&D games and In Search of the Golden Skull for M Network. Even though they are listed as unfinished, there is a mention that those games were played at the 1999 Classic Gaming Expo. So maybe they are playable, but don't have an ending? Either way, I would love to see those released as part of the M Network prototypes. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5554235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Well, the game list is out. About 40% of it is unrelated to M-Network but there are some nice surprises. Air Raiders – 2600 M Network Anteater – 2600 M Network (unreleased, based on Stern IP) Armor Ambush – 2600 M Network Astroblast – 2600 M Network Frogs & Flies – 2600 M Network International Soccer – 2600 M Network Dark Cavern – 2600 M Network Star Strike – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Baseball – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Football – 2600 M Network Swordfight – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Sea Battle – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Tower of Mystery (unreleased prototype, recently rescued) Video Pinball – 2600 Basketball – 2600 Hardball – Atari 8-bit (XE) Final Legacy (prototype) – 5200 Xari Arena – Atari 8-bit Desert Falcon – 7800 4 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwlngmad Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 16 minutes ago, jgkspsx said: Well, the game list is out. About 40% of it is unrelated to M-Network but there are some nice surprises. Air Raiders – 2600 M Network Anteater – 2600 M Network (unreleased, based on Stern IP) Armor Ambush – 2600 M Network Astroblast – 2600 M Network Frogs & Flies – 2600 M Network International Soccer – 2600 M Network Dark Cavern – 2600 M Network Star Strike – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Baseball – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Football – 2600 M Network Swordfight – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Sea Battle – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Tower of Mystery (unreleased prototype, recently rescued) Video Pinball – 2600 Basketball – 2600 Hardball – Atari 8-bit (XE) Final Legacy (prototype) – 5200 Xari Arena – Atari 8-bit Desert Falcon – 7800 Personally I think this is solid enough line up. Sure, it would be nice to see even more games, but I believe that these games along with the additional interviews will make the DLC price worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted November 1 Author Share Posted November 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, jgkspsx said: Well, the game list is out. About 40% of it is unrelated to M-Network but there are some nice surprises. Air Raiders – 2600 M Network Anteater – 2600 M Network (unreleased, based on Stern IP) Armor Ambush – 2600 M Network Astroblast – 2600 M Network Frogs & Flies – 2600 M Network International Soccer – 2600 M Network Dark Cavern – 2600 M Network Star Strike – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Baseball – 2600 M Network Super Challenge Football – 2600 M Network Swordfight – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Sea Battle – 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Tower of Mystery (unreleased prototype, recently rescued) Video Pinball – 2600 Basketball – 2600 Hardball – Atari 8-bit (XE) Final Legacy (prototype) – 5200 Xari Arena – Atari 8-bit Desert Falcon – 7800 Source? I see it all over the internet now. I thought maybe they released a video or something. Glad we will get Tower of Mystery, but was really hoping for Treasure of Tarmin & In Search of the Golden Skull! No Space Attack either. Maybe they thought this was too difficult to adapt or it was just a poor game? Edited November 1 by atarifan88 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabialt Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Atari 50 DLC - 'The First Console War' - Game List (19) Air Raiders - 2600 M Network Anteater - 2600 M Network (unreleased, based on Stern IP) Armor Ambush - 2600 M Network Astroblast - 2600 M Network Frogs & Flies - 2600 M Network International Soccer - 2600 M Network Dark Cavern - 2600 M Network Star Strike - 2600 M Network Super Challenge Baseball - 2600 M Network Super Challenge Football - 2600 M Network Swordfight - 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Sea Battle - 2600 M Network (rare, unreleased) Tower of Mystery (unreleased prototype, recently rescued) Video Pinball - 2600 Basketball - 2600 Hardball - Atari 8-bit (XE) Final Legacy (prototype) - 5200 Xari Arena - Atari 8-bit Desert Falcon - 7800 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabialt Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 I wasn't expecting Tower of Mystery and Anteater. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boog Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 So, the only games that weren't available in Flashback Classics V.1-3 are Anteater, Tower of Mystery, Hardball, and Desert Falcon 7800? Really wish they'd added other random 7800/Lynx/Jaguar games. Maybe future dlc will be more interesting... 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF997 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, boog said: So, the only games that weren't available in Flashback Classics V.1-3 are Anteater, Tower of Mystery, Hardball, and Desert Falcon 7800? Really wish they'd added other random 7800/Lynx/Jaguar games. Maybe future dlc will be more interesting... Speaking of the Atari Vault I noticed that it has been delisted on Steam, I tried to buy it recently but couldn't, maybe they are planning on eventually rereleasing all of the remaining games that aren't on the Atari 50 as part of some other collection ? Edited November 1 by JPF997 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmangela Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 it seems like a wasted opportunity if there arent any intellivision games. comparing the baseballs was such a big thing. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 Xari Arena on the 8-bit is a weird one. Is it just the 5200 proto ported by Homesoft twenty years ago? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 5 hours ago, wasabialt said: I wasn't expecting Tower of Mystery and Anteater. Same here. I wonder if that means Atari were the ones that bought the Tower of Mystery prototype that showed up a year ago or so. As far as Anteater, does that mean Atari acquired the rights to the game? It was not listed as part of the Stern acquisition. At the time, I thought maybe the rights were murky since Stern did not publish the game. Did Atari hide the purchase, purchase it more recently, or simply license it? At this time, I do not think there is anything in Atari 50 that is not wholly owned by Atari. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 I surmised previously that we might get more Atari published sports titles in this dlc, and I guess I was partially right. We are getting 2600 Basketball and XE Hardball. Swordfight is on here, but it was not listed as part of the ip that Atari owned, I wonder why that is. Space Attack's omission is strange. I could possibly see Atari releasing it later at the same time as 2600 Star Raiders, as similar games. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5558812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasabialt Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Unfortunately I was correct about the lack of Intellivision games. Despite that, I'm more interested in this second DLC than the first. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5559162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidD Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 My Switch alerted me that it downloaded the new DLC, and it's waiting for the release date. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5561685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Here is my take on the new content if interested 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5561816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 On 11/1/2024 at 5:50 PM, www.atarimania.com said: Xari Arena on the 8-bit is a weird one. Is it just the 5200 proto ported by Homesoft twenty years ago? That game is on the Atari Super Pocket. It's an interesting game. The cart is available on the AA store as well. https://atariage.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1053 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5561834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 As happened with the first DLC, still nothing on Steam. The Steam Store pages shows the Wider World of Atari, and the combo bundle, but no listing for The First Console War. Gotta say, whomever is running their retail partner marketing, at least on the Steam side of things, is not doing a great job. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/373497-atari-50-the-first-console-war/page/5/#findComment-5562111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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