LesserRaven Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 I was going to make a Vulture Attack hack, since it looks an awful lot like a flock of birds pooping and I hate it when grackles poop all over the place so I was going to make a game about that. However, I couldn't find any of the graphics I needed in Hack-O-Matic. One thing I DID find, however, was a bunch of Pac-Man graphics. Pac Man, the ghost enemies, the score numbers which aren't used in Vulture Attack, etc. So my question is, why are the Pac-Man graphics there? Sorry if this has been found before, I didn't look through all the messages. Also, I'd like to ask WHERE are the vulture sprites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Probably because the programmer used Pac-Man as a basis for his code. Although that seems like a really odd choice for a game like Vulture Attack. Anyone else have more information on this? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Nothing in Clonespy...which would mean that too low a percentage of the original game was used, and the binaries are considered to be 2 entirely different programs. Nice find BTW since that area of the program is not even being used at all, you would be able to hack in your own code at those addresses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Nothing in Clonespy...which would mean that too low a percentage of the original game was used, and the binaries are considered to be 2 entirely different programs. Well, depends on how you define the minimal clone factor (-t), by using -t20 you get this: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Galactic (G) (Funvision) (PAL) [!]··········· · 95 74 74 - - - - - - 1 Condor Attack (High-Score Games) (PAL) [!]··· = · 75 75 - - - - - - 2 VultureAttack_KTel··························· 93 97 ·100 25 26 26 27 - - 3 Condor Attack (CCE)·························· 93 97 = · 25 26 26 27 - - 4 Pac-Man (Atari) (PAL) [!]···················· - - 29 29 · 88 88 89 36 36 5 Pac-Man (CCE)································ - - 30 30 = · 99 99 41 40 6 Pac-Man (CCE) (PAL) [!]······················ - - 30 30 = = · 99 41 40 7 Pac-Man (1981) (Atari)······················· - - 31 31 = = = · 41 41 8 Brick Kick (RJPG)···························· - - - - = = = = · 98 9 Peter Penguin (Jagt auf Diamanten-Frisco) (IT. - - - - = = = = = · So, there definitely is some original Pac-Man code hiding in Vulture Attack. Probably just unused remains after reburning a EPROM that containend Pac-Man before. Looks like it was removed for the top two games (or a different EPROM was used). Nice find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Looks a bit straighter this way... 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0: · 95 74 74 - - - - - - 1: = · 75 75 - - - - - - 2: 93 97 · 100 25 26 26 27 - - 3: 93 97 = · 25 26 26 27 - - 4: - - 29 29 · 88 88 89 36 36 5: - - 30 30 = · 99 99 41 40 6: - - 30 30 = = · 99 41 40 7: - - 31 31 = = = · 41 41 8: - - - - = = = = · 98 9: - - - - = = = = = · Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesserRaven Posted February 15, 2004 Author Share Posted February 15, 2004 Here are some shots I have of the Pac-Man graphics in Vulture Attack. I would be much less surprised to find Space Invaders in there, or maybe Galaxian, but no, it's Pac-Man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Ok so how do you read that clonespy matrix anyway? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Ok so how do you read that clonespy matrix anyway? Check here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 The [code] tags seem to make text spill over on my 800x600 screen...as if a carriage return exists between 4 & 5 in the text " 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9" for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 I see. But the picture is only 520 pixel wide. And the matrix is a hardcopy from an 80 character DOS screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 I know...sometimes the code tag works correctly (meaning I'll have to use the scrollbars to see it all)...other times, it looks like the above - with each line split in two. Maybe it's just an IE thing? That jpeg is a cropped picture of the browser window...just as I see it. (I cut off the edges so it wouldn't be so big). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Maybe it's just an IE thing? IE? Ouch!!! Yes, that explains a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 great find. Totally whack, but then again, so is Vulture Attack! Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasoco Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Maybe it's just an IE thing? IE? Ouch!!! Yes, that explains a lot. No, not an IE thing.. this time. It does the same in Safari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 No, not an IE thing.. this time. It does the same in Safari. I know, it happens with Opera too. j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 great find. Totally whack, but then again, so is Vulture Attack! Word. Awesome rap, now that was nice. But can StanJr do it twice? (Puts on RUN-DMC tougher than leather) Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Buck, you be illin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Das' boot man! (Whatever that actually means? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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