Spirantho Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 I have a plan.... After The Great Hard Disk Crash of 2004 (in which I lost my PAL database work - D'oh!) I'm rebuilding my PAL database programs... except this time I'm making them publically accessible (luckily I had a backup of the PHP code I was using)! What I want to know is - who here is willing to help preliminary work on the list? You don't need anything except a web browser and a reasonable knowledge of PAL carts and their rarities. I want to keep the list open only to certain people until we reach a critical mass, then we can open the list up to the public. I figure if we can make it a truly public list then we can make a really good list of what exists in PAL form, as we can all give input from anywhere in the world - it's just too big a job for one person! I also want to put up piccies of the carts, but they won't be anything like the quality of the AA pics - I have very little bandwidth! N.B. - this is not just a rarity list! I've never seen a complete list of PAL carts anywhere so it could be useful even to people who have no interest in a rarity guide. Please sign below if you're interested! Ta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 I could help you out wherever I can, although there are many people here with a better knowledge of PAL carts then me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Are you going to reference the DP Guide? I know Joe has a ton of carts listed there. I assume some of the European collectors will know how accurate his guide is. I remember having a cart or two that was not on his list. I can check it when I get home, or possibly over the weekend and post it. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 8, 2004 Author Share Posted October 8, 2004 Not if I can help it... there's no pics in it and the rarities are a little iffier than I'd like, and I don't want to steal anyone's work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Just out of curiosity, how are you going to group the carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 I don't have that many carts, but I'm always willing to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Hi there! I don't have that many carts, but I'm always willing to help Cool avatar, one of my favourite bands... Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 count me in Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharopolis Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Well I'll help in any way I can, Im a newbie obviously, but if theres anything I can do, I will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 OK, once I've got a satisfactory system up and running (won't be long) I'll PM the people who are interested.. then we can get started. Oh, Sharopolis - a nice little modded Vader found its way to the post office on Saturday so you should receive it pretty soon. If anyone else still wants to help let me know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 Just out of curiosity, how are you going to group the carts? Just noticed this question... They will be grouped by manufacturer, then label type eventually. For now, though, I'm just doing everything alphabetically, as it'll take me a while to get my software up to a really satisfactory level. I class different label designs as a large difference - for instance, a 'Taiwan Cooper' label is different to a V-handle pirate which is different to a Zellers-style etc.etc. Essentially they'll be grouped in the same way as the AA database - i.e. whatever way you like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khryssun Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hi there! I don't have that many carts, but I'm always willing to help Cool avatar, one of my favourite bands... Greetings, Manuel Nice calligraphy indeed... Just curious what is the name of this Band ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 It's Apoptygma Berzerk from Norway with Stephan Groth as the main man behind the project. In the early nineties ApB was really dark industrial, nowadays it's far more commercial and trancy music. I also really like the old logo based on the Pax Christi sign. I have this logo as a tattoo on my arm. Topic> I'll have a look at the database this evening. I saw there isn't much in there yet, so I can start adding a few commons to see how it works. Great concept! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 I'll have a look at the database this evening. I saw there isn't much in there yet, so I can start adding a few commons to see how it works. Great concept! That's right - it takes time to build up a list of commons. As long as we all work together well on this there won't be a problem and we should be able to get something nice up... then when it's got a useful amount of info in it I'll make a read-only version for the masses. I imagine for a while the database will consist of just the contributers' collections plus a few they've seen on eBay, then over time we can plug the more weird ones in that appear on eBay infrequently (like that Modern Knight that was put up over the weekend - not seen that for a while).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Hi threre! It's Apoptygma Berzerk from Norway with Stephan Groth as the main man behind the project. In the early nineties ApB was really dark industrial, nowadays it's far more commercial and trancy music. I also really like the old logo based on the Pax Christi sign. I have this logo as a tattoo on my arm. Topic> Wow, cool. Does the tattoo say "dead man moving" as well? I'm certainly more into the old darker stuff, filing most of the new material under "Aerobic Techno" Still, some killer tracks are even on the latest album (...ok amp, let me out... ...rollergirl...). Also there's always the odd C64-SID version of a song on a B-Side or as hidden bonus track, so both the cyber and goth the in me are pleased Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Now what to do with re-issues and label variations? For example, I have a 1986 Circus Atari re-issue, how should I insert it? Just "Circus Atari (1986 re-issue)" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 For now, stick to the basics... I'll put in dates and things when I get round to it. The chief priority is just to get the major label variations covered, then we'll worry about the little ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Ok! I'm now going over my basic carts, adding quantity etc. Heh, I doubt some fives are really fives as I noticed I have quite a few of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 Ok! I'm now going over my basic carts, adding quantity etc. Heh, I doubt some fives are really fives as I noticed I have quite a few of those. Good - that's the benefit of having multinational people contributing! It'll start off woefully inaccurate (especially as most of them I've put down as 3's!) but over time it should get better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Some suggestions: - The function to search or add publishers doesn't work. Is this a flaw or still work in progress? - Add "Activision / Special" - Add "Technovision / Picture" - Other publishers from http://www.gamereset.de/gamereset_.htm Otherwise, thumbs up on the work already done! If it were in ASP I'd already have some code ready because I made searchable databases etc in ASP for my final internship and I still have all the code. I should get more into php, but I don't even seem to find the time for it. Oh and my tattoo doesn't say Dead Man Moving, I wanted to keep it a bit neutral so it only is what my avatar shows. This is how it looks and now, those are not wires from my head, I'm sitting in front of a powerplug of a lamp (the white thing) and those wires stuck out I'm not *that* cyber. Topic> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Oh and perhaps a different category for the crappy soft white text label Activision and Salu type of carts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharopolis Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Heh, this is fun, been adding my carts merrily. I think I've got most of mine on there now, I've certainly put up the ones that wern't listed. I've no real idea about rarities, so I've just put the Atari age database ones on where possible, or played safe with a low mark. Cheers for the Vader Spiro! I think it came today, just a post office card that I havent had chance to pick up, but Im not expecting anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted October 12, 2004 Author Share Posted October 12, 2004 Yeah - so far so good - my HTML/CGI/PHP coding skills are a little rusty but it all seems to be holding together so far! When we've finished adding on our own collections we can go trawling on eBay... that way we get the broadest cross-section available. No-one's uploaded any photos yet, though, so if you want something to do and have a bit of time...! And yes, that should be the Vader - let me know how you get on with it (it modded quite nicely!) Viva PAL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 count me in too. pm sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 You might wanna get "Search label" working too, as more carts are added, people can check if carts from small publishers are complete. *just added my Technovision carts I'll upload pics of them too later today* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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