AtariBuff Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 @Marco, first a big hello to you. The Activision dealer display is already loaded with my Activision games and it looks fantastic. What`s the story you mentioned with the first Eurocon and this display? Did you guys ever came up with more info about the pirate conspiracy theorie you mentioned in the DPG #7 or is this the latest news? @Spirantho how is the project doing? we`re awaiting your orders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 To be honest, I think we've done a pretty hefty amount of work. I think the next phase is to work out between us what the actual rarity of each cart should be, and take an average. Then we can open the list (read-only, of course!) to the public... which will provide us with more submissions and knowledge hopefully. What I don't know is how best to do this....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 To be honest, I think we've done a pretty hefty amount of workyes, thanks to all of us . i will adding more scans today or tomorrow. What I don't know is how best to do this....!hmmm, we need a subforum here just for PAL rarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 To be honest, I think we've done a pretty hefty amount of workyes, thanks to all of us . i will adding more scans today or tomorrow. What I don't know is how best to do this....!hmmm, we need a subforum here just for PAL rarity Scarily, you might be right, but I suspect that Albert is a little too busy to worry about humouring us PAL guys at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 ... yes, with the NTSC election coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 ... yes, with the NTSC election coming up Haha! Bush: NTSC Kerry: PAL Nader: SECAM I vote PAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBuff Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 yeah, PAL here too - it's great to get some extra lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Sorry I can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but if it hasn't been mentioned then you might want to look at ... http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23364 And see if you can contact IBP - he's been AWOL for a few months but he may just be lurking. I'm sure he has some usefull resources. I have around 100 Pal carts but they are packed away in my attic and I'm in no hurry to dig them out, but if I do I will gladly contribute. Hmmm come to think about it I have a list somewhere so maybe I could dig that out if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 Thanks for the link but IBP's rarity list has a major flaw - it tracks what is being sold in Europe, not what is produced in Europe. Hence his list has things like Swordquest Waterworld, which has never existed in PAL form. The only way to get a true PAL list is collaborate - hence why this new list has been created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBP Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Absolutely. It was never intended to be a true rarity list - more a buyer's guide. There's no way to produce a rarity list without doing shed-loads of hard work, which Spirantho is doing and for which I commend him. I, on the other hand, am a plain lazy programmer who never could get visual basic to recognise an NTSC cart from a vague description and a fuzzy photo on ebay. Damn my pathetic limitations... I think both are useful, but ultimately what we need is a rarety guide and my system could never produce that. If you want to know how often things come up on ebay, though, mine's your puppy. I wish you good luck, Spirantho, and now I've got the bug again I'll do whatever I can to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 Yup... I used to try a similar method, but the signal-to-noise ratio was just too low. Of course, like you say, if what you want to know is how much a cart sells for in Europe, yours is great. They're both very different (and valuable in their own way) projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IBP Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 17136 carts over two years in my sample... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Ok, enough off-topic Today i got this cart (see pictures). Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work, but i was wondering if anyone has ever seen one before?? Cheers, Raymond BTW Today's haul was pretty ok. For EUR €50 (including shipping) i got: Colecovision console + atari 2600 adapter, boxed Sorcerer's Apprentice, boxed Super Cobra, boxed Bomb Assault, boxed dragonfire, boxed wizard of wor, boxed return ot Jedi, box star raiders + boxed pad, boxed plaque attack, boxed ghostbusters, boxed outlaw, boxed galaxian, Mogul Maniac + boxed Joyboard + bunch of loose commons AND a bunch of Colecovision games including boxed Zenji, boxed Mountain King, boxed Hero, boxed Tutankham, boxed Quest for Quintanaroo + bunch of loose and boxed common games AND 2 loose Intellivision games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 Nope, never seen that before.... The picture is the same as used as the Tigervision "King Kong", not surprisingly... I presume there's no indication of manufacturer or anything, so we should think of a name for this label style... It is pretty non-descript, though, isn't it?? BTW - that haul - what do you mean OK? You got that on eBay? 50 Euros covers the boxed Assault - the rest is a freebie (and a good one too!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Nope, no sign of the manufacturer. I'm still trying to get it work, but even after cleaning it still refuses to do anything I think we need a category 'Unknown' in the rarity list where we can put all the carts we don't know the manufacturer of.... I didn't get those games of Ebay btw, a co-worker of my father knew someone who knew someone etc etc etc and he was selling it. I took almost 5 weeks for the stuff to get here, but it was worth the wait. Bad thing is that the Assault box is missing the top-flap of the box but i'm not complaining. Some of those Colecovision games are actually pretty rare i just noticed... Also, i might have found something else interesting, but i'll let you know when i get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 *still lurking* Heh, god knows how many weird carts we'll stumble upon and will get documented instead of fade away in some forum topic titled "has anyone seen this before?". Yay! I only wish I had the money to actively hunt down carts again. I had to refuse a great "first pick, the rest gets auctioned" from an ebay seller because of this. When I saw the auctions he had some really good stuff to sell. Oh well, I hope the tide will turn quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1810 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Any chance you could post the names of the rarest PAL games at some stage so I can keep an eye out for them (I have no idea which are rare) Thanks Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 15, 2004 Author Share Posted November 15, 2004 Any chance you could post the names of the rarest PAL games at some stage so I can keep an eye out for them (I have no idea which are rare) Pengo (black picture label, not the NTSC silver label version) Any Video Gems games (though Surfer's Paradise and Missile Control are the more common of a rare lot) Commavid games like Stronghold, Cakewalk etc. General Retreat/Westward Ho (adult double ender... er... maybe I should rephrase that) Any more, fellow contributors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Any more, fellow contributors? games you might have missed are: - Complete 32-in-1 game (loose extremely common, but try finding a boxed one) - Mangia is also rare, although not extremely rare... Furthermore, there are a bunch of 'pirate' games which could potentially be very rare (although probably not very valuable). Also, there a number of PAL versions of certain games which might be rare, but I don't have enough info about them to draw any conclusions (i'm thinking of PAL Data Age games like Frankenstein's Monster, 20th Century MASH, some Telesys games etc. etc.) Edit: i forgot, K-Tel/Funvision games (with the T-handle) are pretty hard to find too Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 (i'm thinking of PAL Data Age games like Frankenstein's Monster, 20th Century MASH, some Telesys games etc. etc.) No such thing.. they're Gameworld games! BTW, did you see the Carrerre M.A.D. I got for about £2 the other day? Coooll.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 @Marco,first a big hello to you. The Activision dealer display is already loaded with my Activision games and it looks fantastic. What`s the story you mentioned with the first Eurocon and this display? Yeah, it's a great sight! We got the display stand for the official 1999 Activision Decathlon European Championships. Marc Oberhauser arranged the display along with a batch of Asteroids PC games from Activision Europe. Did you guys ever came up with more info about the pirate conspiracy theorie you mentioned in the DPG #7 or is this the latest news? Nope, we never persued that theory after writing it down Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Should we add these to the rarity list? http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...me=STRK:MEWA:IT http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...me=STRK:MEWA:IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 Should we add these to the rarity list? http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...me=STRK:MEWA:IThttp://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5137453139&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT Not sure why you posted the link twice. Yes, definitely - but I'd like the buyer to do it with a nice scan if possible...! €82,00 though!!! That's a LOT for a pirate cart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 oops. Haven't had my morning coffee yet. The 2nd like was supposed to be: http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...me=STRK:MEWA:IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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