CPUWIZ Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Opinions? Anyone have a real number of how many there are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Good questions. I would bet there are more than Video Life, but fewer than Halloween. I think Off Your Rocker was available both from Pleasant Valley Video and from Renny Mitchell in Arizona for a while. Someone in Phoenix could probably ask whoever is running Renny's stores if Renny is still around. Maybe Jerry Greiner would have some insight too. Have you opened one up to see if it is eprom or rom? As the story was told, these were production games that never had a label applied, so I would guess they are roms. The only argument I can think of is that Pepsi Invaders was an official product from Atari that was distributed by Atari. OYR was not officially released by Amiga. OYR is very similar to the Donald Duck's Speedboat that was distributed by Best Electronics. Even though Donald was made with a ROM on a production board, it was never released by Atari with an Atari label. It was only sold through Best Electronics in a generic cartridge. I would say that if OYR is changed from a prototype to either a 9 or 10, that we would have to also consider those "prototypes" from Best as 9 or 10s also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Two old posts for background reading for those interested... The first shows a photo of the board and the ROM & epoxy blob. http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.p...ighlight=rocker http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.p...ighlight=rocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I wouldn't mind making Off Your Rocker a 10 along with Dukes of Hazzard. Why's Confrontation listed as a prototype? Shouldn't that also be a 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 There is so little known about Confrontation, it is tough to say if it was ever "released" in any form. Since there is a ROM for the game, it at least was dumped at some point...but dumped from a prototype eprom or what? Here is an explanation about why a manual for confrontation exists: http://www.atariage.com/common/image.html?..._06221983_2.jpg For those PGP-1 owners that sent in the evaluation, they received a free malagai game plus two flyers for other Answer Games. Presumably, those were the instructions for Gauntlet and Confrontation. That might even explain why Marco's Confrontation docs are folded in the middle...in order to fit in the mailing envelope. That could be the same reason CPUWIZ instructions are folded down the middle...to fit in a mailing envelope from Answer. So there might actually be more "flyers"/instructions for some games by Answer than actual carts. Even the confrontation owned by Marco is a puzzle. It looks like an eprom, but it is in a cartridge shell different from Answer cartridges. The board has "Control Technology" copyright instead of Answer. It could be the original prototype of confrontation or an eprom burned by PVV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 14, 2004 Author Share Posted October 14, 2004 I wouldn't mind making Off Your Rocker a 10 along with Dukes of Hazzard. Why's Confrontation listed as a prototype? Shouldn't that also be a 10? Ahh, yes, I forgot about Dukes. Although I believe it is only a 9, considering how many copies of it surfaced over the last years. It almost seems like they did a full production run on that game. Confrontation is a weird one, does anyone besides Marco even have a copy? I think Marco got his from William Z. but I am not 100% sure about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I think Marco got his from William Z. but I am not 100% sure about that. WRONG!!! William S. and William was only 1 of 2 people that had the PGP1. i would call Confrontation a prototype. i don't think any exist with a orginial label. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Perpetua Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 I sent in Confrontation a couple of years ago to be dumped. Mine came from Pleasent Valley Video. I was to when I bought it that the owner (Jim Redd) bought the rom chips from Answer and put them in cases. When the cart was dumped I was informed the it was a copy cart probally burned from the Prom Blaster. I did get a copy of the instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 I sent in Confrontation a couple of years ago to be dumped. Mine came from Pleasent Valley Video. I was to when I bought it that the owner (Jim Redd) bought the rom chips from Answer and put them in cases. When the cart was dumped I was informed the it was a copy cart probally burned from the Prom Blaster. I did get a copy of the instructions. Thanks for the info, do you have a picture of your PCB by any chance? I'd love to see if it is a mask ROM or an EPROM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Perpetua Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Sorry I don't have a picture, but I am pretty sure it is an eprom, its a heavy cart almost the same style as a Comma Vid or Komani cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 Sorry I don't have a picture, but I am pretty sure it is an eprom, its a heavy cart almost the same style as a Comma Vid or Komani cart. Interesting, thanks, sounds like the Homevision Repro Cart. Does it look like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Perpetua Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 The size looks the same, but the lines in the plastic are not in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I'd like to see Off Your Rocker made a 9 or a 10 myself, especially since I just bought one. I think you can make the same argument for it that you can for Pepsi Invaders - a real ROM as opposed to an EPROM, a finished program meant to be distributed as a cart that was only made in limited quantities, and enough of a quantity in existance to be more than what you'd call a prototype - not to mention a proto would have different versions but all the dumps of Off Your Rocker would be exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 It'd be nice to see the designation change. I already have it listed in my personal DB as a 9 as opposed to a P. Got mine off Ebay for $100 a ways back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Did you see the one that didn't meet reserve? Cruddy label I know, but nobody won it so I offered the seller $85 and she accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Did you see the one that didn't meet reserve? Cruddy label I know, but nobody won it so I offered the seller $85 and she accepted. LOL, they all have cruddy labels. Mine is just a sticker that someone slapped across the cart and sloppily wrote the title on. That's a nice score for $85.00! Not having the game listed in the rarity guide has its advantages sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 He really means cruddy, this is the cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Well my label's like that... just complete! It's handwritten and stuck on there with glue. Most bizarre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 What R didn't say is that I consulted him about it, because I had no idea what they go for and was worried I had offered too much. Little did I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 Well my label's like that... just complete! It's handwritten and stuck on there with glue. Most bizarre... Yep, mine is like that too. Weirdest label ever. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariAger Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Yep, mine is like that too. Weirdest label ever. LOL Let's see...I'll take Eli's Ladder, Vulture Attack, Great Escape & Off Your Rocker!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 What R didn't say is that I consulted him about it, because I had no idea what they go for and was worried I had offered too much. Little did I know. Well I paid $100 for mine (which included the "manual") so for private rates, that was probably decent (given the label isn't exactly one for being easy to survive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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