Lost Monkey Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Aw... Man... There's no BW/Color switch! So, I guess Space Shuttle is out of the question. 846144[/snapback] Atari wasn't thinking too much about Activision's Space Shuttle when they released the Jr. either.. 846147[/snapback] Or Starmaster for that matter... 846155[/snapback] I was actually thinking of the overlay for Space Shuttle, but in reality, there is no reason for Atari to provide compatability with anything but it's own legacy cartridges... except Secret Quest, which I wasn't aware of since I've never seen it... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU8 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 The "2600 on a chip" + VCS/2600/2600jr/7800 controller compatibility elevates this to a genuine Atari dedicated console. Yeah, 40 games is enough. When I play with my real 2600jr I only take out 4 games at a time, at the most. So for 29.95 this is ok indeed. Adding an external cart slot,...that's in the dream box for the moment. It would be nice though because then it would get around the copyright issue and Pac Man jr and other non Atari owned titles could be played by inserting an old cart. Perhaps someone could now write Super Pac Man for the 2600? Still, can you imagine anyone going to this trouble for any other old console? The 2600 is the world's No. 1 old console. With the Flashback 2.0 it has finally beaten NES through mini me reincarnation. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Adding a slot doesn't affect copyright law in any way...it just voids the warrenty. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I know this is dumb but could someone explain "internal cartridge slot" to me? Will there be a cart slot hidden in the machine somewhere? Will we have to buy one or cannibalize an old VCS? I dont understand, please fill me in. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I wonder which version of Pac Man will be packed in. Sure would be nice if one of the hacks of Ms Pac Man was in there instead of the bonk-bonk-beep version. Most likely Ms Pac or Jr Pac will be in there tho. Ditto for me on the switches. They should be at least silver or grey. They look like pushbuttons. The new CX40's will probably use newer carbon pad switch technology too. That would be nice. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU8 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Yeah, I wasn't clear about the copyright issue. At present Atari can only put "Atari" owned games on the console, like Asteroids. But, if there was an external cart slot you could put in an old copy of Pac Man jr. and play that as well. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepnut24 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Adding a slot doesn't affect copyright law in any way...it just voids the warrenty. 846364[/snapback] Something I plan to do pretty quickly if possible. Well Ill be going the portable route if there is a way to add a cart slot. So do we know if the soilder points are there or not???? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Adding a slot doesn't affect copyright law in any way...it just voids the warrenty. 846364[/snapback] Wouldn't that be funny if they started getting all these returns with half-assed cart connectors, color/bw switches, blue leds, and lcd tv screens? "God d**mmit wasn't this thing marketed as standalone???!!!" Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 No one knows if there are just solder points or if there is a cartridge slot on the inside, but I am betting on solder points. If so, if I can get a bunch of cartridge connectors, I'm sure I can do a few for people Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 No one knows if there are just solder points or if there is a cartridge slot on the inside, but I am betting on solder points. If so, if I can get a bunch of cartridge connectors, I'm sure I can do a few for people 846457[/snapback] I wouldn't say that nobody knows, just that nobody's talking just yet. ..Al Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Starmaster also works without the use of any other switches at all. You need to wait a few seconds before it chooses the default option, though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Adding a slot doesn't affect copyright law in any way...it just voids the warrenty. 846364[/snapback] Wouldn't that be funny if they started getting all these returns with half-assed cart connectors, color/bw switches, blue leds, and lcd tv screens? "God d**mmit wasn't this thing marketed as standalone???!!!" 846441[/snapback] *raises hand for Blue LED's and LCD TV Screen* Yes, I plan on making a portable out of this thing. We'll see how far I get Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Interesting little article that's related to the Flashback 2.0. No new info on it really but read on for yourselves: From http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2005/04/04/atari_2005.php Atari 2005 Over the weekend student game design crews participated in Parsons Retro Redux. Essentially teams of students were locked in rooms with access to old video games for 24 hours hoping to produce as many games as possible around the retro technology of Atari's Flashback 2.0 game console. Gothamist is fairly certain that a number of others unknowningly participated (ie: in their apartments, without any productive outcome) in this event over the weekend. Retro Redux offers game aficionados a chance to create games of the future based on some of the most classic games of the past. One winning game design will be selected for possible inclusion on a future version of the Atari Flashback console. That winner will be announced TONIGHT from 5 to 7pm at the Lang Student Center, New School University [55 W. 13th street, 2nd floor]. So go check out what's new in retro! [via FreeNYC] Posted by Jen Carlson in Event , Technology Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 "I wonder which version of Pac Man will be packed in. Sure would be nice if one of the hacks of Ms Pac Man was in there instead of the bonk-bonk-beep version. Most likely Ms Pac or Jr Pac will be in there tho." Atari has relicensed some of this stuff to use? I hope its true. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Honestly, I'm not getting it for the games... for the hackability! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This is a nifty item... I must say that the first Flashback was a bit of a disappointment, but this one is sounding like the "real deal"... real games (not conversions) and DB9 controllers! I may have to pick one of these up for the nephews! Three (optimistic but still just a hair apprehensive) cheers for Infogrames! Cheers! Joey 846247[/snapback] The Flashback 1 used DB9s too. They just weren't 2600/7800-compatible DB9s. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 This looks pretty sweet...hats off to Infogrames if they do it right this time. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Any photo's yet ? 845743[/snapback] right here http://mediaviewer.ign.com/mediaviewer.jsp...6type%3Dpartner 845760[/snapback] That's not a real photo, that's a mockup of the box (one of many that were done) that appears to have leaked. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Awesome... It's really cool to see Curts name up on the Atari site as well! (Congrats man!) I just wonder if the proposed under $30 holds true... remember the original Flashback was supposed to be under $40 but sold for $59.99. (ouch, didn't get one). I'm really surprised they sold half a million original flashback units... but it's good news! (now the 2nd coming!) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 Unless I misunderstand what I've heard thus far, the "2600-on-a-chip" inside the Flashback 2.0 isn't the same one that was posted about by the same Atari enthusiast who was developing it, and later either licensed or sold what he had developed. This is an entirely new 2600-on-a-chip, and who knows as a result if you can even use Atari carts with it, even if you could sauter a cart port to the innerds of this tiny thing? I do like that it supports real paddles and joysticks, at any rate. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 anything is possible dude, give me a sauderer and a the schematics for it, ill make it talk, walk, and play like the orrigional 2600. one more thing, where can i get a cart port??? 846835[/snapback] Off an old 2600? Kinda like reusing old games for new homebrews Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I've got 6 (dead) 2600 boards out in the garage Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I probably won't buy this one (I might though, either for myself or as a present), but if the next one has a place to insert cartridges, I'll buy it without a second thought. I will drag out my old cartridges and stop using an emulator for the first time in many years. I might even start collecting again to get a few of the cartridges I don't have anymore. No soldering for me, just give me the next version and I'll open my wallet immediately. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Rescue Group Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 (edited) It would be cool if there was a punch out panel in the casing that would easily give access to a cart port located inside. The price of paddles on ebay are gonna go up for sure. Edited April 30, 2005 by Atari Rescue Group Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted April 30, 2005 Share Posted April 30, 2005 I'm starting to wonder what 3guns is on.... (can I have some?) sounds sarcastic yet I can't tell. hmmm.... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/68759-atari-announces-flashback-20/page/3/#findComment-846850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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