neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Hello, I am super new to this I have had a box of old Atari games forever and just pulled them from storage. In the Box I found several black cartridges with very simple labels . I had talked to a couple of guys at a convention in San Jose with a digital press guide and found out one game was a rare 10 prototype Planet of the apes but i have several more that arent listed or are listed as common games but are they special in this format ? I would like to know what they are worth as well I cant seem to find a price guide on line ? Black case big square sticker Planet of the apes Alligator people bobby goes home x7 earth black case long label on top of case typed tomatoes crypts of chaos Bonnie & clyde "the guy who did crypts of chaos said he did bonnie & clyde in a interview i found but no i cant find any info on the game ?" black case thin sticker on top spine with blue stripe crash dive deadly duck porkys Any information would be helpful I am getting a old Atari today and will get screen shots and other pictures Neoscott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 They are all Atari 2600 to my knowledge Neoscott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Could you post pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Are you sure Bonnie & Cylde isn't a pre-production name for Bank Heist? 20th Century Fox prototypes are rare, and a few of those (Alligator People, Plant of the Apes) were never released. I'm really curious as to how Bobby is Going Home got mixed in with TCF protos, as this was a Bit Corp. game. Earth is most likely The Earth Dies Screaming. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maibock Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) cool Edited June 30, 2005 by maibock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) Are you sure Bonnie & Clyde isn't a pre-production name for Bank Heist? I'm 99% certain it is. Bill Aspromonte did Bank Heist (Roaring 20's). John Marvin (Crypts of Chaos) said: "There was a game called Bank Heist, I'm not sure if that got out, it was supposed to be a Bonnie & Clyde. As I said there was a lot of pressure to use movies and this was a bank robbing game, a maze game. I thought it was a lot of fun but I think that they found out that Bonnie & Clyde was a bigger license than they could afford to put on this game and 20th Century Fox didn't seem to have total ownership of the license even so they had made the movie and... I don't know all the details, what happened to the game." Earth is most likely The Earth Dies Screaming. Or: The Day The Earth Stood Still. Edited June 30, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickybaby Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Are you sure Bonnie & Cylde isn't a pre-production name for Bank Heist? 20th Century Fox prototypes are rare, and a few of those (Alligator People, Plant of the Apes) were never released. I'm really curious as to how Bobby is Going Home got mixed in with TCF protos, as this was a Bit Corp. game. Earth is most likely The Earth Dies Screaming. Tempest 883593[/snapback] If anyone would know about Protos it's this guy. He's wicked smart. I am sure many people here would love to see pics of the carts you have, myself included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l3ushwig Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Pics Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 I will crop the the rest and post them shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 Here is better picture let me know if anyone wants a detailed picture of a singel cart . neoscott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) The handwriting on the Planet of the Apes label is from the same person who wrote on the PotA proto shown on Tempest's site: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/p...eapes/41383.htm And the 'Earth' handwriting looks an awful lot like the 'Gator' handwriting on the Alligator People proto on Atariprotos: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/a...igatorproto.htm I think you hit the jackpot. Edited June 30, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 Wow that is cool are you guys finding this intresting ? Are the games real finds or just more of the same ? Neoscott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Wow that is cool are you guys finding this intresting ? Are the games real finds or just more of the same ?Neoscott 883782[/snapback] This is awesome!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 BTW X7 is Spacemaster X-7. Congratualtions, those look to be legit prototypes. You're a very lucky person! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 more pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 And More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Bobby is far from home. What the hell is he doing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Congratualtions, those look to be legit prototypes. You're a very lucky person! 883787[/snapback] Unless the binary happens to be different from all other known binaries, how can one tell a real prototype from a pirate cart or fake prototype? It would seem that most prototypes lack a clear trail of ownership, so how can they be authenticated? I can certainly see the interest in the code for work-in-progress games. And some prototypes are physically interesting as well (e.g. ones that have hand-wired mods to implement new bank-switching methods, etc.) But for the most part, I fail to see much reason for interest in the artifacts themselves. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 What do you mean ? Neoscott Bobby is far from home.What the hell is he doing here? 883815[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) Bobby Goes Home intrigues me. Although it's in a Fox cartridge case, the game itself is not from 20th Century Fox Video Games, but from Bit Corporation. And the original Bit Corp title is: Bobby is Going Home, instead of Bobby Goes Home: http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=2342 I would love to see a screenshot. Edited July 1, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 My 2600 isnt working so I have to wait till saturday to go out to the swap meet to get a new one . So we are looking at late saturday for screenshots unless i can find one tomorrow at a eb or gamestop. Neoscott Bobby Goes Home intrigues me. It's not from 20th Century Fox Video Games, but from Bit Corporation. And the original Bit Corp title is: Bobby is Going Home, instead of Bobby Goes Home. I would love to see a screenshot. 883828[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Congratulations on your find! There are quite a few people who would be interested in those. My advice to you if you choose to sell these is to avoid Ebay at all costs. They will pull them and suspend your account. If you decide to sell them, offer them for sale in the marketplace forum here at Atariage as a mock auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoscott Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 They would pull them and suspend me ? Congratulations on your find! There are quite a few people who would be interested in those. My advice to you if you choose to sell these is to avoid Ebay at all costs. They will pull them and suspend your account. If you decide to sell them, offer them for sale in the marketplace forum here at Atariage as a mock auction. 883832[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l3ushwig Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) Yep... But the ebay popos have been sleeping latley i have seen like 4 protos come and go without being pulled. Edited July 1, 2005 by o0o_BuShWiG_o0o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Sadly yes they might. Some auctions get through, but others don't. I wouldn't risk it. I sent you a PM about the protos, if you have any questions let me know. Unless the binary happens to be different from all other known binaries, how can one tell a real prototype from a pirate cart or fake prototype? It would seem that most prototypes lack a clear trail of ownership, so how can they be authenticated? This is true, but they look like authentic 20th Century Fox lab loaners. There are several distinct features that help me determine if they look genuine. I can't be 100% sure without actually knowing the trail of ownership, but I feel confident that they are real just from experience. I can certainly see the interest in the code for work-in-progress games. And some prototypes are physically interesting as well (e.g. ones that have hand-wired mods to implement new bank-switching methods, etc.) But for the most part, I fail to see much reason for interest in the artifacts themselves. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? I guess it's like wanting to own a real cart rather than a rom. It's all about collecting and owning a piece of history. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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