Christophero Sly Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 (edited) I'm attempting to compile lists of all the known Atari, Corp. label variants from 1985-1991. This includes picture labels (black background), gray( silver) labels, and red labels. I've attached lists (html) of all the Atari, Corp. variants that I am able to verify from a scan or photo. If anyone has any additional Atari, Corp variants they can add to these lists, please post them in this thread. Please include as much detail as possible about the label--the copyright date, what appears on the controller info line, the size and color of the Atari logo, and whether or not the label illustration is drawn outside the frame. Scans would be cool. I'll keep the list updated and posted in this thread. Thanks. LATEST UPDATE: 1-24-08 Gray_Labels_12_31_07.html BlackLabels_1_10_08.html Red_Labels_1_24_08.html Edited January 24, 2008 by Christophero Sly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Offhand, I know Star Ship was re-released- see the "picture" label with the large yellow text. I'm not exactly sure when though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Offhand, I know Star Ship was re-released- see the "picture" label with the large yellow text. I'm not exactly sure when though. 889109[/snapback] That was a lot earlier... my own copy of that particular variant has "452" stamped on the end label, which means it was produced in the 45th week of 1982. The '85-'88 rereleases don't even have these number stamps, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggger2 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 (edited) I have a 1986 Basic Programming cartridge with black tape over the controller information. It has a small white Atari logo and has art outside the frame. The end label has yellow letters on black. TM appears to the upper right of Programming on both labels. Edited July 11, 2005 by froggger2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 10, 2005 Author Share Posted July 10, 2005 I have a 1986 Basic Programming cartridge with black tape over the controller information. It has a small white Atari logo and has art outside the frame. The end label has yellow letters on black. TM appears to the upper right of Programming on both labels. Excellent. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1n Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I have a dodge em reprint without the controller info line. I read on here that it was rare, then saw about 10 in a row on ebay. Seems Atari might have done a double pack with Pele's soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gospeedde Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I have a Math Gran Prix - same as the one you listed but with a 1986 date instead of 1987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchysuperman Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 I have these to add: '86 3-D Tic Tac Toe (paddle misprint) - or did you mean to already have this one in the list? (you have the omitted '86 listed twice) '88 Canyon Bomber (omitted) '86 Defender (light blue background - PAL only) '86 Night Driver (correct - red text) '88 Super Breakout (omitted) I'm glad you're doing this - I didn't know there was an omitted Yars' Revenge. Planning to do the gray re-releases as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball22 Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Yay! I've been trying to collect this info for a while now. You might add a column for how to quickly tell which is which for the ones that aren't obviously missing text... Air-Sea Battle has a little dot hyphen on the later releases. Home Run is all one word. For the ones where the easiest way to tell is the picture running out: Casino, the woman's hand is complete Backgammon, one of the pieces is outside the pic on the left Othello, the squares continue at the bottom And definitely add a column for which of these came in gray boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangest Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 i have an 1987 canyon bomber that is the same as your 1986 listing. btw, is your 1986 blackjack listing referring to the same version that is spelled out "black jack"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Thank you to all the recent contributors. '86 3-D Tic Tac Toe (paddle misprint) - or did you mean to already have this one in the list? (you have the omitted '86 listed twice) Whoops! Thanks for catching that. Yes, that was supposed to be the error label. Planning to do the gray re-releases as well Yes. There are many interesting variants among the gray labels. However, I haven't been collecting the gray re-releases as actively as the black labels, so I don't have as big a foundation to start a list with. Plus, many of the gray label variants are unique, so it might be hard to identify the common elements to base a list on. I need to do a little research to familiarize myself with the distinguishing characteristics of the gray re-releases before I can begin constructing a list, but I'll try to find some time this week to put together a framework. Yay! I've been trying to collect this info for a while now. Me too. I know there are several of us who are actively collecting these variants. Hopefully, everyone will contribute and we can put together something approaching a definitive list. You might add a column for how to quickly tell which is which for the ones that aren't obviously missing text... Air-Sea Battle has a little dot hyphen on the later releases. Home Run is all one word. I've been adding that sort of information to the 'Remarks' column. I'll add these two remarks to the list. And definitely add a column for which of these came in gray boxes. That's a good idea. I confess, I know very little about re-release boxes. I was under the impression that all the re-releases came in gray boxes. If anyone has any info on re-release boxed, please let me know. Also, what about re-release instruction manuals? Were these all B&W? I've attached an updated list. Titles in italics are those with incomplete information. I'm sure most of the missing information for a specific variant can be inferred from other variants for that title, but I'd rather get direct verification for these things rather than risk adding inaccurate information to the list, so if you can fill in any of the blanks, please do so. Edited July 16, 2005 by Christophero Sly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 btw, is your 1986 blackjack listing referring to the same version that is spelled out "black jack"? Yes. I've changed it to "Black Jack". Thanks. Also, I've changed "Home Run" to "Homerun". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shining slade Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 PM sent with pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Thanks to shining slade, I was able to fill in several blanks. Here is a revised list. Edited July 16, 2005 by Christophero Sly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Franzman Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Doesn't Defender blue background belong in this list, or was it PAL only? Edited July 12, 2005 by A.J. Franzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Doesn't Defender blue background belong in this list, or was it PAL only? 890153[/snapback] Indeed, do you want PAL carts? 'cos if so I've a few that you probably don't have. And when you say black re-releases from 85-88, what about the post '88 black picture labels? I've got a '91 Missile Command in black picture label style... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the 5th ghost Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Air-Sea Battle: 1986, black tape, sm. white Atari logo, picture outside box Berzerk: 1987, ommitted, sm. black Atari logo, picture inside box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 maybe this will help The Giant List of 2600 Label Variations -Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchysuperman Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 But it's far from complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Air-Sea Battle: 1986, black tape, sm. white Atari logo, picture outside box Berzerk: 1987, ommitted, sm. black Atari logo, picture inside box Thanks! I've got a '91 Missile Command in black picture label style... Very interesting. I assume it's PAL? Regardless, please post a photo of that bad boy. Regarding PAL carts in general: I originally intended to construct an NTSC-only list, but I see no reason not to include a section for PAL carts, especially when there seem to be many interesting PAL variants, like that blue Defender and Pengo. If anyone has black-label PAL re-releases they would like included in the list, please post them here. maybe this will help The Giant List of 2600 Label Variations As crunchy said, the Giant LVAR is incomplete and, by all indications, future updates will not be forthcoming. Nevertheless, the Giant LVAR contains a wealth of valuable information and I am actively cross-referencing it. I would like to construct a list that supplements the Giant LVAR, not a list that supplants the Giant LVAR. I'm hoping that the variables and the format of this new list might reveal some patterns that provide insight into the re-releases beyond just being label variants. Here are a few intriguing re-release variants from the Giant LVAR. 1987 Basketball with an orange background similar to Breakout. 1986 Flag Capture and Fun with Numbers with controller info on the END labels. Can anyone confirm these? Also, all the Air-Sea battle re-releases have slightly enlarged text on the end label, but I seem to recall seeing a re-release variant of Air-Sea battle which had enormous end label text. The Giant LVAR confirms this and the variation listed is the 1987 omitted, but my copy of that variant has normal size text on the end label. Can anyone clear this up? Here is the most recent update to the list. Edited July 16, 2005 by Christophero Sly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunchysuperman Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 1987 Basketball with an orange background similar to Breakout.1986 Flag Capture and Fun with Numbers with controller info on the END labels. Ok, that's just wierd! I'd like to see 'em though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t1n Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I have a dodge em reprint without the controller info line. I read on here that it was rare, then saw about 10 in a row on ebay. Seems Atari might have done a double pack with Pele's soccer. 889585[/snapback] ARGH should have mentioned it's PAL. Sorry..... keep forgetting this is a mainly NTSC place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 1987 Basketball with an orange background similar to Breakout.1986 Flag Capture and Fun with Numbers with controller info on the END labels. Ok, that's just wierd! I'd like to see 'em though. 890351[/snapback] I think it is possible that "E: use with paddle controllers" meant that this was an "Error". Some of the notation in the LVAR was that T: meant typo, and E: meant end label. But in this case, I think it was a typo to use E: instead of T:. The black label Pengo is also listed as "E: use with paddle...", but if you look at the picture on AA, this "error" is on the main label. That listing for basketball in the LVAR may be my fault?!? I had sent John Earney a bunch of updates at one point. Later when looking through my own inventory, I noticed I had listed that version of basketball as one I owned. I think I had cut/pasted the entry for orange Breakout down into the entry for the re-release of Basketball I had. I never did find an orange label basketball, and I always wondered if that entry in the LVAR had come from me. That is why it is so nice to have picture proof of these entries archived somewhere. The atariguide site is done really well that way. I see several new ones already on this list you are making that I do not have. I never realized that there were multiple versions with the same copyright year(controller info present/error/omitted). Some days my want list gets shorter , some days it grows . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think it is possible that "E: use with paddle controllers" meant that this was an "Error". Some of the notation in the LVAR was that T: meant typo, and E: meant end label. But in this case, I think it was a typo to use E: instead of T:. The black label Pengo is also listed as "E: use with paddle...", but if you look at the picture on AA, this "error" is on the main label. Yes, that notation makes better sense. Thanks for clearing that up. That listing for basketball in the LVAR may be my fault?!? I had sent John Earney a bunch of updates at one point. Later when looking through my own inventory, I noticed I had listed that version of basketball as one I owned. I think I had cut/pasted the entry for orange Breakout down into the entry for the re-release of Basketball I had. I never did find an orange label basketball, and I always wondered if that entry in the LVAR had come from me. Interesting. I've never seen that variant either and I haven't heard it mentioned beyond the LVAR. Could it be PAL? The Giant LVAR doesn't list the blue background Defender as PAL, but we now know that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 @CincYnoTi: BTW, your avatar appears to be an Indy 500 re-release with black tape. If it is a Indy 500 re-release that you can confirm, I'd very much like to add it to the list. What year is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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