Foxsolo2000 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Hi is there a definitive list for every Homebrew game that was ever released in cartridge form. I ask as many people cannot agree on what was released in cartridge form and what wasn't and I am interested in trying to collect them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 (edited) No reply in 2 weeks? I guess no one has offered such a list because it does not exist yet. We ought to make one. If Foxsolo2000 wants to collect them all, we homebrewers have an interest in helping out. I'll start with a list of everything I can think of. This list is limited to Atari 2600 homebrews offered for sale to the general public in the past or present, and does not distinguish between variants. (i.e. Skeleton and Skeleton+ are equivalent.) I've also added four new homebrews that AtariAge will release at vgXpo, Philadelphia. Minigame Multicart 2005 2600 Post-it Note Alfred Challenge Allia Quest Backfire Climber 5 Crazy Balloon Crazy Valet Dark Mage Edtris Euchre Fall Down FlapPing and JoustPong Go Fish! Gunfight Hunchy 2 Holiday Greeting Cart 2003 INV and INV+ Jammed Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring Marble Craze Mental Kombat Merlin's Walls Okie Dokie Oystron Pesco Poker Squares Power Off! Pressure Gauge Qb and Holiday Greeting Cart 2004 RPS SCSIcide and Ultra SCSIcide Seawolf Skeleton and Skeleton+ Space Instigators Space Treat and Space Treat Deluxe Star Fire Stell-A-Sketch Synthcart Swoops! Testcart This Planet Sucks Thrust (many variants) Vault Assault Video Simon Video Time Machine Warring Worms I'll edit the list as suggestions come in. I believe there are older out-of-print homebrews that need to be added. EDIT: added some Hozer games from Nathan's links and listed variants for clarity. Edited November 8, 2005 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Can't you just rely on the game database here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 (edited) I used the database as a reference, but there are a few differences. For example, I wouldn't consider Ebivision's Pac-Man to be a homebrew release since AFAIK only one copy was made. The database also categorizes hardware like the Cuttle Cart and Krokodile cart as homebrews. The (H) rating makes the most sense, but I consider a homebrew to be the software. Most importantly, the database is not clear on whether certain older titles like Yatzee were ever published. Edited November 2, 2005 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 That is the reason why I asked in the first place. The AA list is pretty good but it doesn't say whether the Homebrew/hack was ever released on cartridge. I just want to be able to put closure on the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 It'd probably be easier if you set some kind of parameters. For example, there was a game called Connect the Dots created by Pitfall Harry that found its way onto a total of two carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Also, there were quite a few carts that Hozer Video released in their day. Like for instance: http://web.archive.org/web/20020816002047/...i/section1.html and: http://web.archive.org/web/20021021142814/...i/section2.html or even: http://web.archive.org/web/20020816002702/...i/section4.html So a lot of stuff was put onto a cartridge... but what distinguishes one type of "release" from another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 So a lot of stuff was put onto a cartridge... but what distinguishes one type of "release" from another? How about royalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 So a lot of stuff was put onto a cartridge... but what distinguishes one type of "release" from another? How about royalties? 958566[/snapback] Were all homebrew authors who's games were sold through Hozer given royalties? What about homebrewers and hackers who sold limited runs themselves? They didn't actually see royalties in some instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 So okay lets simplify things. I would argue that if it was released even in only one cartridge then it becomes a viable collectors piece. I understand about the Hozer angle and yes I have heard others say that Albert at Atari Age could put any hack or rom into a cart if you asked him too and contributed to AA so lets group all the homebrews/hacks that were released in cartridge form and actually exist, together in one list. Yes I also know that I am probably asking the impossible if I expect to collect them all but as I have nothing better to do with my life why not take up the challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 So okay lets simplify things. I would argue that if it was released even in only one cartridge then it becomes a viable collectors piece. I understand about the Hozer angle and yes I have heard others say that Albert at Atari Age could put any hack or rom into a cart if you asked him too and contributed to AA so lets group all the homebrews/hacks that were released in cartridge form and actually exist, together in one list. Yes I also know that I am probably asking the impossible if I expect to collect them all but as I have nothing better to do with my life why not take up the challenge 958611[/snapback] Are you also looking at hacks, special repro runs (like CPU's Save Our Ship and the Halloween/TCM boxed limited numbered double ender), application files and demos like Post It Note and Red Box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 HELL WHY NOT, AS LONG AS THEY WERE RELEASED IN CARTRIDGE FORM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 (edited) EDIT: Okay, I fixed this list by dividing this post into Hacks and Homebrews, to the best of my knowledge: Homebrew: Qb Holiday edition 2004 thru AA(Hacked by the original author) dozens of pictures and porno put on cart to test Andrew Davie's Interleaved Chronocolour Globetrotter Sean Kelly's Multicart( 256 games, IIRC ) Packrat Holiday cart 2003( w/blinking lights ) Repro/Conversions: Coke Wins clear case( ResQsoft ) Polo(green text label) Polo(red label) Frog Pond CPUWIZ: Asterix/Obelix double-ender Malagai/? double-ender TCM/Halloween double-ender NTSC Save Our Ship NTSC Nuts! NTSC Pharoah's Curse NTSC 3000 A.D. Hacks: Combat Rock ( Paul Slocum ) Mr. Roboto ( Paul Slocum ) Donkey Kong Marriage Proposal cart ( Paul Slocum ) Adventure + Haunted Adventure: Boo! Haunted Adventure 2 Wolfenstein VCS dozens of ATARI TROLL's hacks( mostly Borg-themed ) he had put on cart NWCGE Invaders Battlezone: Tank Control( Thomas J. ) ...that's all for now... Edited November 3, 2005 by Gateway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I guess you're counting rebadges like JoustPong / FlapPing as one thing? No biggie, but there's a different title screen and cart art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 Yes I am for with the new title and lable they count as seperate carts in my view. Added to his as you have already stated the scree is different which all adds up. By the way could anyone tell me what exactly was different about the QB holiday cart edition as information seems to be a little slim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Yes I am for with the new title and lable they count as seperate carts in my view. Added to his as you have already stated the scree is different which all adds up. By the way could anyone tell me what exactly was different about the QB holiday cart edition as information seems to be a little slim 959219[/snapback] It was essentially a very nice graphics hack of Qb to give the game a Christmas theme. The colors and graphics were changed from the original. To quote the description from the store, This new version of Qb includes updated graphics sporting a holiday theme, a new label designed by Dave Exton (who also created the Qb label gracing copies of the game sold through the AtariAge Store, as well as last year's Holiday GreetingCart label), and a Qb Holiday Cart manual. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keitaro Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Hi!! and why not to include year and publisher in the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 If someone can supply me with true factsa and figures then why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisrael Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You can get some interesting results when you look for "publisher" for Homebrews. I mean, "AtariAge" has been the primary manufacturer of FlapPing/JoustPong, though technically it's an "Alien Bill Production" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 True. The challenge I face will be a complex and difficult one but I love a good challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 True. The challenge I face will be a complex and difficult one but I love a good challenge 962060[/snapback] I agree with you about the challenge. When you want to include everything that was ever put on a cartridge you are adding a whole new level of ambition. Remember that anyone with the right equipment can make a cartridge these days. Anyone without the equipment can hire Albert or others. There are known limited release homebrews like Pitfall Harry's Connect the Dots. There could also be privately made cartridges that only one person knows about. Especially with Batari Basic, it's pretty easy for someone to make their own homebrew. That is why I limited my list to carts offered to the general public. But you are free to make a list your own way. Including hacks and repros? Well again, you're free to do so, but would it be a homebrew list anymore? Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 Good question. I guess that I would have to attempt two lists, one of hacks one of homebrews. Yes I understand the magnitude of the problem but the way I see it if only one person knows of it then it cannot go on the list unless that person is me Seriously though I am looking for any home brew that was released on Ebay or sites that sold it, no matter how limited the run. One offs are fine but only if released say in a competition or offered for sale to the general public. That should make things easier dont you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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