Cootster Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Reading "The Many Faces of Frogger" in the latest RTM got me to thinking: Why does the Supercharger version of Frogger exist? I mean, it's definitely awesome and the best console version of the game ever made, but the Parker Bros. cart version is also great even if it doesn't look quite as good. Why did they choose to duplicate a Sega title that had already been done right as opposed to one that got a not-so-excellent 2600 cart port? Up & Down, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon, heck, even Tapper and Tac-Scan, would have all benefited more from this treatment than Frogger did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 It's a liscensing quirk. Konami (not Sega) sold the Frogger rights to Parker Bros but only for game cartridges, so Starpath was able to acquire the cassette rights. No game company ever left that hole open again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 It would have been great to own the game back then (and a Supercharger). It would have impressed the pants off me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralstorm Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I seem to remember the "many faces" reviewer saying the Parker Brothers Frogger didn't have the 'second snake' (which I assume means the snake that wanders on the big floating log), but it does. haven't noticed a 'second snake' on the Starpath Frogger, but I find it a little tougher than the PB version - is there one or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I've got the Starpath version and believe me it is certainly worth the investment and trouble getting the tape and supercharger. If you liked the Paker Bros version you would certainly love the Starpath edition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 The best Starpath titles are the originals like Dragonstomper and Survival Island. They should have spent more of their efforts there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviticus Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I love the Starpath Frogger, but it IS a good point - why not do a game that needed a facelift worse, or something not in the library already. I got the Supercharger and "Stella Gets a New Brain" CD a couple years ago, and I have to say it was a great buy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbo Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 why? why not? frogger for starpath rocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory DG Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 SC Frogger is also great on the Cuttle Cart 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cootster Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 I seem to remember the "many faces" reviewer saying the Parker Brothers Frogger didn't have the 'second snake' (which I assume means the snake that wanders on the big floating log), but it does. haven't noticed a 'second snake' on the Starpath Frogger, but I find it a little tougher than the PB version - is there one or not? 1002938[/snapback] Both versions have the second snake. Apparently, the reviewer wasn't good enough to get to that point in either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerCollector Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) It would have been great to own the game back then (and a Supercharger). It would have impressed the pants off me. Heck, it impresses me now! But I just wish there were more games made for it. Some new homebrews for it some day, perhaps! Edited January 22, 2006 by ComputerCollector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Let the cassette speak for itself. I own one today, CIB, and it was worth every penny I paid for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 (edited) I seem to remember the "many faces" reviewer saying the Parker Brothers Frogger didn't have the 'second snake' (which I assume means the snake that wanders on the big floating log), but it does. haven't noticed a 'second snake' on the Starpath Frogger, but I find it a little tougher than the PB version - is there one or not? 1002938[/snapback] Both versions have the second snake. Apparently, the reviewer wasn't good enough to get to that point in either. Yeah, I think the A800 PB version also has the second snake, but the reviewer missed that too. The reviewer also didn't bother checking whether you would walk on the snake's tail, a very important detail IMO. You can in the 2600 PB, 2600 Starpath, 800 PB cart, 800 released Sierra disk, and a few others, but you can't in the Intellivision or Sierra C64 versions. Also, the unreleased Sierra 800 prototype version got the highest ratings, but it seemed a bit choppy to me and I didn't like the feel of the controls. It's a liscensing quirk. Konami (not Sega) sold the Frogger rights to Parker Bros but only for game cartridges, so Starpath was able to acquire the cassette rights. No game company ever left that hole open again. Are you sure it wasn't SEGA who sold the Frogger rights? The PB carts only list SEGA's copyright, not Konami's. I remember reading about a huge dispute with SEGA and Konami over the rights to Frogger. Konami did make the original Frogger, but SEGA brought Frogger to the US without giving Konami proper credit. http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=194 I'm wondering what the full story of the distrubition rights to Frogger is. Apparantly, Sierra had the rights to tape and disk versions of Frogger before Starpath did. The box suggests that the Starpath version is sublincensed from Sierra. The released Sierra Atari 800 disk version of Frogger actually seems to share some graphics and sound with the Parker Brothers Atari 800 version. http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?Soft...p;BoxStyleID=38 Edited August 17, 2006 by BrianC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketmego Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Reading "The Many Faces of Frogger" in the latest RTM got me to thinking: Why does the Supercharger version of Frogger exist? I mean, it's definitely awesome and the best console version of the game ever made, but the Parker Bros. cart version is also great even if it doesn't look quite as good. Why did they choose to duplicate a Sega title that had already been done right as opposed to one that got a not-so-excellent 2600 cart port? Up & Down, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon, heck, even Tapper and Tac-Scan, would have all benefited more from this treatment than Frogger did. That is an EXTREMELY valid point and Zaxxon and Congo Bongo were both WAY more needy than Frogger to be sure. -Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 'they should have spent most of their efforts on original titles' uhm.. well... they DID. Frogger was the ONLY port they did! Your complaint is invalid. :-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2600lover Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Could someone explain what a supercharger is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Could someone explain what a supercharger is? Google can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 it's a re-inforced frame dodge charger, that is very strong. I still need a boxed frogger / party mix to complete my sc collection. have everything else. i LOVE the sc. truly one of the greats of the 2600 (and of course it's awesome, the awesome Epyx came from the supercharger.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 SC Frogger is also great on the Cuttle Cart 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish there was a way to get the SC games on a regular cart...or on my kroko cart. I don't have a SC or a CC2, so I'm stuck with my laptpop and stelladpter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The SC games also work on the first Cuttle Cart released in 2001, the only flash cart that can play them on a 2600, unless I'm mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidrepsda253 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 How much does this game cost? I have a brand new copy I had forgotten about in my collection inside a box I left. It has some damage and 2 rips on plastic and 1 on the box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Looks pretty beaten up. Around $250 I would say. $25.000 if you have it graded by WATA. Edited September 28, 2022 by Rom Hunter 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo930 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 1/18/2006 at 9:02 PM, Cootster said: Reading "The Many Faces of Frogger" in the latest RTM got me to thinking: Why does the Supercharger version of Frogger exist? I mean, it's definitely awesome and the best console version of the game ever made, but the Parker Bros. cart version is also great even if it doesn't look quite as good. Why did they choose to duplicate a Sega title that had already been done right as opposed to one that got a not-so-excellent 2600 cart port? Up & Down, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon, heck, even Tapper and Tac-Scan, would have all benefited more from this treatment than Frogger did. The Parker Brothers version of Frogger is terrible and it's terrible on every system they released it on. Not one port has the music right. They don't get the color right. Even the more powerful system versions of Frogger were terrible. Colecovision, C64, 5200, they all suck. There is no excuse for these bad ports. There was a 2016 release for the 64 called "Frogger Arcade" and that's what the 64 version should have been. As to why they didn't pick a game that needs it more, I'm guessing they didn't have much money to pay for a license of a newer game. The tape version for the supercharger was going to sell a fraction of the copies a cartridge version would. Games that require add-ons sold separately rarely do very well. If they pay a ton for the license, they would have to sell a lot of copies to make a profit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris+++ Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 21 hours ago, christo930 said: The Parker Brothers version of Frogger is terrible and it's terrible on every system they released it on. It just goes to show you how much tastes can vary. I love the (cartridge) version of 2600 Frogger. In fact, I have more fun playing it than the arcade original, as the controls have a more abrupt effect, so it's easier to steer your character quickly and accurately. The "animation lag" in the original takes some getting used to. I care more about the game-play than the music or other ephemeral irrelevancies, but that's subjective as well, I guess. The C64 version by Sierra Online is great, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 1/18/2006 at 8:09 PM, NovaXpress said: It's a liscensing quirk. Konami (not Sega) sold the Frogger rights to Parker Bros but only for game cartridges, so Starpath was able to acquire the cassette rights. No game company ever left that hole open again. NOVA XPRESS!! I thought he was back but then I realized this topic is like 20 years old haha On 9/20/2022 at 2:19 AM, davidrepsda253 said: How much does this game cost? I have a brand new copy I had forgotten about in my collection inside a box I left. It has some damage and 2 rips on plastic and 1 on the box. Friendly forum price - $150 shipped Ebay price - more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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