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Hello all! New to the forums but a long-time fan of AtariAge -- excellent site, BTW. I bought a FB1 awhile ago and was happy with it. Stayed away from the FB2 -- didn't think I could validate the purchase but with a FB1 and two working original 2600's (1 woodgrain, 1 Jr.) but when I read about the cartridge hacks I was intrigued. Been doing a bit of reading here in the forums and my understanding is that there are two Rev's available -- A and B. B provides speech in Quadrun, correct? Well, my question is, if I want to pick up a FB2, is there anyway of knowing which Rev I'm getting prior to opening it up and hooking it up? Those pesky salespeople get perturbed when you return an opened product over and over again -- there's only so many times I can say it doesn't work!! Any thoughts? And sorry if this has been covered in another thread -- I did a couple searches and couldn't find anything on it so I figured I'd post!!

 

Thanks a bunch!

Rory

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Welcome to the forums! Come back and post as often as you'd like! :)

 

The answer to your question is that if you don't buy it from Walmart, you will mostly likely (99.9%) be getting a RevB FB2. It's difficult to get a RevA nowadays (at least in Canada).

 

Cheers,

Tony

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Hello all!  New to the forums but a long-time fan of AtariAge -- excellent site, BTW.  I bought a FB1 awhile ago and was happy with it.  Stayed away from the FB2 -- didn't think I could validate the purchase but with a FB1 and two working original 2600's (1 woodgrain, 1 Jr.) but when I read about the cartridge hacks I was intrigued.  Been doing a bit of reading here in the forums and my understanding is that there are two Rev's available -- A and B.  B provides speech in Quadrun, correct?  Well, my question is, if I want to pick up a FB2, is there anyway of knowing which Rev I'm getting prior to opening it up and hooking it up?  Those pesky salespeople get perturbed when you return an opened product over and over again -- there's only so many times I can say it doesn't work!!  Any thoughts?  And sorry if this has been covered in another thread -- I did a couple searches and couldn't find anything on it so I figured I'd post!!

 

Thanks a bunch!

Rory

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First of all, welcome to AtariAge!

 

There are unfortunately no distinguishing marks that would tell you whether you're getting an "A" or a "B." The best way to tell is to simply buy it and hook it up and play Quadrun; if you get voice, you've got a "B." At this point, I'd say that your chances of getting a "B" the first time are very good; only the earliest ones (which have most likely been sold off by this time) were "A"s. You may also know that there is/was a "C" in development, which supposedly fixes some of the inferior built-in games and corrects some other issues, but with the present troubles at Atari there's no way of knowing whether "C" will actually become a product.

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Cool!  Thanks guys!  Good to know!  How hard is the Cartridge mod?  I'm not much of a technician and I'm wondering if it will be more trouble than it's worth for me!
Someone with soldering experience here mentioned that it took about 6 hours total, probably due to all the fine soldering that has to be done. I have all the equipment but I'm too busy right now to get started on it.
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Cool!  Thanks guys!  Good to know!  How hard is the Cartridge mod?  I'm not much of a technician and I'm wondering if it will be more trouble than it's worth for me!

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It looks quite easy...if time consuming. Curt posted a link to some pictures that really give a nicely detailed guide to doing it. I believe the thread is sticky'd...

Actually, it's inside a sticky'd thread...here's a direct link:

 

Curts hack

 

Good luck, and post pics if you do it.

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Yes I was looking over Curts -- I think between that one and netmoe's "Moe Production Atari Flashback 2.0 Cartridge Port Modification" I'll be able to pull it off! Curts gives awesome instructions on the internal modifications and netmoe's breaks down the case mod really nicely. I'll be sure to let everyone know how it turns out -- if I ever manage to find a FB2, that is!

 

Rory

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Yes I was looking over Curts -- I think between that one and netmoe's "Moe Production Atari Flashback 2.0 Cartridge Port Modification" I'll be able to pull it off!  Curts gives awesome instructions on the internal modifications and netmoe's breaks down the case mod really nicely.  I'll be sure to let everyone know how it turns out -- if I ever manage to find a FB2, that is!

 

Rory

:!: Be aware that Curt's mod is done with a RevA unit, and Moe's is a RevB unit. There are differences in the boards, so read the info carefully.
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Ok another question then: Curts instructions are the one I'll follow since I'll (hopefully) be modding a Rev. B not a Rev. A.
Curt's mod is a RevA mod, AFAIK. He did it with an early production FB2.

 

My question is: is there a cart mod manual/page that covers the case mod part of it??
Most modders used a dremel tool to cut through the case. See the FAQ sticky.
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Hi again all! Not sure if I should have posted this in a new thread -- my apologies if I should have! Picking up a Flashback 2 this weekend and I had a question regarding the necessary parts (Cartridge connecter, Guide and cable). Can I rescue them from my old broken 2600 jr.??? Any help/input is appreciated!

 

thanks,

Rory

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I would assume that you could use the cart slot from the JR...I'm not very familiar with them, but the carts are all the same size(otherwise, there would be a sub-set of JR games). The cable from the cart port to the motherboard would probably be best done with a spare ribbon cable. If you don't have a spare(from an old dead computer), you can probably pick one up at the local Radio Shack.

Good luck with the project, and post pics when you get it done!

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Hi again all!  Not sure if I should have posted this in a new thread -- my apologies if I should have!  Picking up a Flashback 2 this weekend and I had a question regarding the necessary parts (Cartridge connecter, Guide and cable).  Can I rescue them from my old broken 2600 jr.???  Any help/input is appreciated!

 

thanks,

Rory

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It might be tough to use the ones from the Jr.; as I recall, the cartridge guide is molded into the case (it and the top half of the clamshell are all one piece), and the cartridge connector is soldered onto the mainboard.
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2600 jr contains porn are u serious?
It's actually the Flashback 2, but yes, they're very serious. Only about one in ten units have it, though, so if you already have a FB2 without the "special surprise" inside, you'd better go out and buy nine more before the hardcore collectors get them all.
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