Crazy Climber & Texas Chainsaw Massacre

[slapdash]

Oy! Or I'll just try one more thing now instead of studying for my German final...

 

So, now I see the key over 82, now I see that there's more to the treetops than I first found.

 

On the other hand, don't see the number code, so maybe I'm still doing something wrong for that one... I did color replace a couple colors to get the treetops, so might have covered up something important elsewhere. Will try again later.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

I'm stuck again, so this is the sentence I found in the left tree top:

 

A KG IS A DOT A TRIO IS NOT

 

I do not understand what KG (or KOG?) means, can somebody help me, please?

 

Or could this be something else?

code:

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X X XX

XX X

XX X XX

X X X X

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This might help deciphering the other codes.

[smf_4ever]

ok.. got the number... got the poem thing.. can't make heads or tails of the little boxes.. and what code?? (from post above)

[videotwit]

I deciphered the tree yesterday, although it does not help much...

 

Resorting this poem

is easy to do

Roses are red

Violets are blue

 

The 7 frame Pitfall Harry animated gif says GREYINK, possibly refering to that strange set of grey 2 and 3 digit numbers.

 

I figured I'd help out a bit, since I know there's no way I can figure it all out alone.

[+-^CrossBow^-]

Okay...do this guys and most of this mess becomes much clearer. matty has had it right the whole time...

 

Simply pull the thing up in MS Paint...

 

Then invert the colors...and Viola!

 

I now see the key above map square 82...

 

But then I also noticed...there is a picture of a diamond ring on the period in the exclamation of the logo PITFALL! at the top...WTF?!

 

I am almost certain the boxes on the side aren't binary, morse code...or anything like that. I suspect that Ben is using the boxes and the dots within to represent actual letters in words. I think the boxes on the borders have to be work like a cyptogram puzzle. Now the braille I am working on...if the format of it is anything like Ben's other texts in borders...then we have to assume that most of the braille is upside down.

 

Now the one thing I can't make any heads or tails of...is the code above the left graphic. This is the one Thomas had something for before. But I just don't see it. Unless this part is reversed..or upside down...or something equally devilish.

 

I also finally found the numbers the others have been speaking of...

 

for those whom haven't found them...they are located within the instructions on how to solve Pitfall at the bottom of the page. Again when you inverse the colors you will see that there are numbers after each word in that box.

 

Now the key...again this is the one located above map square 82. I can't figure it out exactly..but I know what it basically means. The Key means just that...somehow that key either points to...or is somehow showing us a single clue which is to help solve the whole thing. Kinda like how in a cryptogram you are sometimes given one of the letter combos from which to figure all the rest from. I feel that the key pic is something like this.

 

I still don't see the box code that Russ seems to have found...since he states it isn't the boxes lining the border of the map on the left and top. But everything else has been found that can be found with the colors inversed.

 

Man...my head is gonna explode just looking at all of this...

[Nukey Shay]

Congratulations! You've discovered Pitfall Harry's Lost Video Game Contest. If your wits are as sharp as your eyes, I invite you to visit (edited) for complete contest details. Then hurry over to http://PitfallHarry.tripod.com/MapRoom/PitfallMap.html and solve the "Mystery of the Map" for your chance to win. Contest begins on January 23, 2002 and ends on December 31, 2002. Good Luck!!

 

--Duh...never seen that before.

 

(edited) at MattyXB's request, though I figure someone WILL figure it out anyway...in which case winning without doing anything probably won't happen.

 

[ 05-16-2002: Message edited by: Nukey Shay ]

[Nukey Shay]

Number codes:

91, 16, 07, 84, 23, 08, 09, 30, 04, 45, 47, 01, 27, 49, 125, 38, 31, 02, 94, 11, 61, 13, 28, 74, 14, 17, 36, 76, 33, 77, 92, 46, 06, 18, 20, 57, 83, 105, 54, 42, 47, 99, 37, 50, 75, 95, 70, 29, 78, 10, 19, 150, 126, 15, 44, 97, 106, 64, 25, 72, 146, 81, 32, 05, 138, 100, 113, 89, 21, 164, 118, 211, 35, 152, 151, 48, 59, 24, 82, 215, ?

[Thomas Jentzsch]

The box codes Russ is talking about are real. You need to change the colors, flip the map (vertically) and then you can (very!) hardly read it. It's a hint about Braille.

 

The text at the left tree is tricky. You have to swap the upper two with the lower two lines and then rotate the whole thing 180°.

 

Now somebody, who can answer my KG-question???

 

And does anybody have an idea about the meaning/answer of the Braille question?

 

About the number and box codes:

I think the key is needed to decode one or both of them. If you look at the numbers or the binary codes, they do not repeat. So the code is not simply encoded with the key, Ben has made that very clever, statistical anylize wont help. It could be a code, where the next code is based on the previous one.

 

Maybe the "...a trio is not"-text is meant as a clue for translating the box code.

 

And if you look at the spacing of the boxes, that for sure has some meaning too, else he wouldn't have needed the boxes around the dots at all. There are three different spaces between the boxes.

(letter, word, sentence?). I don't think it's Morse code, but I found that an 8bit Braille code also exists.

 

And I wonder, if there is more Braille hidden in the map. The dots of the logs and holes together with the number or box code could give another Braille code.

 

I'm still thinking about Ben latest hints about the order of things... hm...

 

Anybody less confused than I am?

[MattyXB]

quote:

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Originally posted by Nukey Shay:

Congratulations! You've discovered Pitfall Harry's Lost Video Game Contest. If your wits are as sharp as your eyes, I invete you to visit ... for complete contest details. Then hurry over to ... and solve the "Mystery of the Map" for your chance to win. Contest begins on January 23, 2002 and ends on December 31, 2002. Good Luck!!

 

--Duh...never seen that before.

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Yes, most have already found it. But we have not post it, because now can everyone regiter to this contest without doing something. So better delete the website, and let it everyone find herself.

 

 

The winning chances are = Zero, if everyone regiter without doing something.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Another idea I just had:

 

Perhaps the box or number codes are not encoded text but graphic pattern?

[MattyXB]

quote:

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

I'm still thinking about Ben latest hints about the order of things... hm...

 

Anybody less confused than I am?

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I am to very confused with this all. I have found many by myself, but can't do anything with it.

 

With the order I think mean only, that you must only find one hint. With this you will find the next one. So maybe we have already all or many hints together, but don't know in which order the are. So we have found many hints without knowing the question to find it.

Now we must search, was can be the last hint (or the last 3 hint), which leads to the 3 questions.

 

I think Ben is looking at this thread, and he maybe find it very funny, what we all do and think. He know all about this map, and has so much work with this map. Thats great, but I think to the contest is a bit to hard.

 

But it is funny, and I forget some other things, like bid on ebay.

 

Great work Ben.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

No, it's not to hard, we have time until the end of the whole year.

 

Thinking about the Ben's order hint. Maybe that is linked to the palette entries involved to make things visible.

 

First you have to edit the dark green to see the contest start, plus the box code and parts of the texts at the trees

Next in palette order is grey, which uncovers the numbers

Then there is black, which shows the braille text and codes

And finally another grey that uncoveres the key and the remaining parts of the tree texts.

 

You see, there is a chance that I am getting completely crazy.

[MattyXB]

I have edit every background color and invert the color, after I find the first text in the frame. So I have found many things myself.

 

But the Ring in the Pitfall Logo have I not see at the first time, first after -^Cro§Bow^- tell this have I found this Ring.

 

Maybe the Ring and the Key are the answers of 2 questions?

 

Maybe there are more items hidden somewhere?

[Nukey Shay]

You call it...I don't even know what the riddle is supposed to be!

 

Thomas--

Nope, I tried making pictures out of those "psuedo-bytes" to no avial. The number codes are probably screen #'s like you said. I have no clue what the border pixels could point to (Ascii? Atascii? A program???)...or even if I decyphered the "bits" correctly.

[Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf]

Did any body alse notice that GREY INK re-arranged is KEY RING?

 

Dave

[Thomas Jentzsch]

quote:

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Originally posted by Q*bert:

Did any body alse notice that GREY INK re-arranged is KEY RING?

 

Dave

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I didn't. Maybe this just coincidence, but we already found the poem we have to re-sort (-order(!?), -arrange).

 

Only Ben knows for sure.

[Nukey Shay]

True that...GREY INK could be referring to all those hidden items hidden in the background.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

I've started to do some minimal(!) cryptographic analizing about the numbers and the box codes by counting the bits:

 

For the numbers (80 values), you can see that there are three groups. The 5 least significant bits are the most often occuring ones (50%):

8, 28, 29, 40, 40, 40, 41, 40

 

For the box codes (130 values), the bits are more or less random (~50%):

57, 57, 65, 66, 68, 59, 63, 68

 

So there is an obvious pattern in the number code, but the box code (if it is encrypted) uses a more advanced algorithm.

 

Again, not sure if that will help at all.

[smf_4ever]

Grrrrr.. What does the Jar have to do with any of this?? and

T

URNER ..... huh?

[+-^CrossBow^-]

Regardless of what else we figure out...

 

The answer will in the end be...

 

"42"

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Now this is getting completely weird.

 

If you translate the box code into decimal numbers, you get:

code:

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  1,  8,  9, 10,  5, 14, 24, 12, 26, 27, 39, 41, 16, 45, 49, 30,

56, 34, 67, 68, 35, 59, 60, 71, 83, 75, 87, 77, 81, 91, 88, 93,

89, 97, 94,105,103,108,112,110,116,117,128,113,121,125,130,137,

164,135,168,176,139,142,181,182,183,143,201,206,146,208,211,147,

221,151,222,223,231,155,232,238,156,240,162,242,243,166,170,246,

172,247,252,253, 1, 8,174, 9, 10,186, 12, 16, 30, 34, 35, 59,

189, 60,191, 83,193,195, 87, 88, 89, 97,103,213,108,226,112,121,

227,125,236,130, 5, 14,137,164, 24, 26,168,176,181, 27,182, 39,

183, 41

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If you look at that stream, you can separate it into two sequences of increasing 8 bit values:

code:

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  1,  8,  9, 10, 12, 16, 30, 34, 35, 59, 60, 83, 87, 88, 89, 97,

103,108,112,121,125,130,137,164,168,176,181,182,183,201,206,208,

211,221,222,223,231,232,238,240,242,243,246,247,252,253, 5, 14,

24, 26, 27, 39, 41

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and

code:

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  5, 14, 24, 26, 27, 39, 41, 45, 49, 56, 67, 68, 71, 75, 77, 81, 

91, 93, 94,105,110,113,116,117,128,135,139,142,143,146,147,151,

155,156,162,166,170,172,174,186,189,191,193,195,213,226 227,236,

1, 8, 9, 10, 12, 16, 30, 34, 35, 59, 60, 83, 87, 88, 89, 97,

103,108,112,121,125,130,137,164,168,176,181,182,183

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If you look closer at those sequences, you can see that they both are part of one larger sequence which is 94 values long.

And you will also notice, that there are some jumps in the sequence.

 

The only thing I am sure off: This is not an encrypted code!

 

Now, somebody must tell me. Am I getting mad, or what?

[smf_4ever]

quote:

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Originally posted by -^Cro§Bow^-:

 

The answer will in the end be...

 

"42"

 

 

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I have almost sent an email to harry with that number. lol.. but I think he has put WAY to much time and work into this for it to be a joke like that... if it is.. damn.. jokes on us...

[Thomas Jentzsch]

quote:

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Originally posted by smf_4ever:

Grrrrr.. What does the Jar have to do with any of this?? and

T

URNER ..... huh?

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Yes, I read TURNER too, and have also no idea yet.

 

Where did you found the Jar?

[iguana]

I think I have discovered all that has been said here so far. the "morse " code is definitly NOT morse, I do think that it may be some sort of binary code but as i have seen your translations it does not mean much to me. as for the kg riddle I did notice back on page 5 i think that someone asked about a box cod and it was a kg I will have to go back and look again. the numbers as far as i can see are not point coordinats to draw a map (at least not that i have found) i tried to plot it out on the map and inthe text but to no avail.

[iguana]

here is the "kg" i saw here by thomas. i have not found this in the map yet. where did you find it thomas?

quote:

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code:

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X X XXXX XXX X XXX X X X

 

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This might help deciphering the other codes.

 

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