DEBRO Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hi there, I need your help. I've got potentially 2 renditions of a title screen and I can't decide which one to use. If given the choice of A or B which one would you choose and why? Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Option B. I don't like the excessively long black lines in the "PAC-MAN" in Option A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uosipa llamxew Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I voted "B". The logo is just as sufficient as "A" and is more centered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I had to read the other people's comments to even notice the differences. *Whew... too much parenting for one night...* But after reading the comments and realizing what was different, I agree, B is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy2600 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hi there, I need your help. I've got potentially 2 renditions of a title screen and I can't decide which one to use. If given the choice of A or B which one would you choose and why? Thanks for looking. 1029829[/snapback] The Fonz: AAAaaaa! Nice title screen we need a final FULLY version of Pac-man for the 2600! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 B. The letters are more in proportion with each other. Although the lips on Pac-Man look a little strange in either version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Call me a dude.. but I had a very hard time seeing any difference. It's just the letters right? Anyway.. I chose b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 It does look as if Pac-Man has had collagen lip implants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 If the ghosts in A were more centered under the logo (2 pixels to the right maybe) I would vote for A. Otherwise I vote for B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I say take the Pac-Man from #B, put it in #A, and use the extra space to separate the "P" and "A" by another pixel (like in #B). I.e., I really like the "M" and "N" in #A, but Pac-Man looks better in #B, and having the "P" and "A" crammed together in #A looks worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 How about this 76-pixel version? ========--------========--------========--------========--------========-------- --------11111111--------11111111222222221111111122222222--------22222222-------- PPPPPPPP*.......B...........***.....*...........*.......1.......*.......1PPP PPPPPPPP***.....B.........*******...**.........**.......1.......**......1PPP PPPP....****...*BB.......*********..***.......***......*22......***.....22PP PPPP.....***...*BB.......*********..****.....****......*22......****....22PP PPPP.....***..*BBBB.....***********.*****...*****.....**122.....*****...122P PPPP....****..*BBBB.....*********...******.******.....**122.....******..122P PPPPPPPP***..***BBBB....*******.....*************....***2222....*******.2222 PPPPPPPP*....***BBBB....*****.......*************....***2222....********2222 PPPP........***..BBBB...*******.....*************...***..2222...*********222 PPPP........***..BBBB...*********...*************...***..2222...*********222 PPPP.......***BBBBBBBB..***********.*************..***22222222..******222222 PPPP.......***BBBBBBBB...*********..*************..***22222222..******222222 PPPP......*****BBBBBBBB..*********..*************.*****22222222.*******22222 PPPP......*****BBBBBBBB...*******...*************.*****22222222.*******22222 PPPP......*****BBBBBBBB.....***.....*************.*****22222222.*******22222 Note that P=playfield, 1=missile 1, 2=missile 2, and B=Ball. Players positioned as shown (second line) and do not move.VBLANK should be turned on just to the left of the P, and precisely at the right of the N. If you wish to make the "N" one pixel narrower, move everything four pixels to the right but add one cycle to when you turn off VBLANK; it will then switch after the third pixel of the last playfield bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I would assume that Dennis can center the text in A and vote accordingly. Then you're really just voting on the Pac-Man text. Now thanks to supercat there is a third logo to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 It does look as if Pac-Man has had collagen lip implants. I say take the Pac-Man from #B, put it in #A, and use the extra space to separate the "P" and "A" by another pixel (like in #B). I.e., I really like the "M" and "N" in #A, but Pac-Man looks better in #B, and having the "P" and "A" crammed together in #A looks worse. I could reduce the size of "M" in A a bit. Would that work for you? How about this 76-pixel version? I'll try to get a mock-up soon to see what it looks like on the TV. I would assume that Dennis can center the text in A and vote accordingly. Then you're really just voting on the Pac-Man text. Yeah, I didn't center them correctly for this post. I was trying to get a feel to which "Pacman" looked better. I added the ghost names to give a psuedo look to how the screen would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I like A.) Better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggs130 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 A - it is for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Here's a 52 pixel wide version I came up with: The red drop shadow is also 52 pixels, but it's offset to the right one pixel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) That looks great, Nathan. It'll take some creativity to shift the shadow by 1 pixel. It's not as trivial as moving a 48 pixel sprite. As long as we are considering alternatives to the first 2, the Pacman logo is a good candidate for 56 pixels using a method conceived by supercat. The restriction is that you can not have the following patterns in the leftmost and rightmost 4 pixels: X-X- -XX- -X-X -X-- --X- Nor can you have the following in the leftmost and rightmost 5: X---X Of course, someone would have to code it. Edited March 10, 2006 by Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Is it too late to vote for a "Puck Man" option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I went for B for reasons known only to myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Here's a 52 pixel wide version I came up with: Ooh, shiny. Let's run with that... In the immortal words of Calculon-- I don't care for the font. Looks like it tries to emulate certain characteristics of the arcade font at the expense of legibility and consistency (mostly in the area of stroke width). I've cleaned that up a bit, and fixed the justification to match the arcade version. Also, I never liked the Space-Invader look of the ghosts in the Atari 800 version of Pac-Man, so I hope Debro doesn't reproduce that. IMHO, all the visual character of the ghosts is in their big googly eyes. Edited March 10, 2006 by ZylonBane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 In the immortal words of Calculon-- I don't care for the font. Looks like it tries to emulate certain characteristics of the arcade font at the expense of legibility and consistency (mostly in the area of stroke width). I've cleaned that up a bit, and fixed the justification to match the arcade version. You mean the font used for the ghost names, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I went ahead and converted supercat's idea to graphics. The M is slightly modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Yikes! You are going for the title screen too? It's gonna rock, kids :yes: Anyway, I vote B unless the shadowed C is a new candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atwwong Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I wish I hadn't voted so early on; the new ones look better (hides face because of choice "A")... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 I went ahead and converted supercat's idea to graphics. The M is slightly modified. If you look at the original Pac-Man marquee though, the dot in the center of the "P" should be much smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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