For or for not, using cartridges games on JagCF ?

[GT Turbo]

A lot of people are asking about using cartridges games on JagCF, so please make your choice, we need to know :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Pocket]

Of course yes, to be able to play all my cart games on a single device would be really cool

[Goochman]

Just so you know - I wont support any JagCF games if it doesnt work as a generic cart as well - Not worth investing my money into.

 

I will buy JagCF games if I own one.

[GT Turbo]

Just so you know - I wont support any JagCF games if it doesnt work as a generic cart as well - Not worth investing my money into.

 

Jagware games will use all special features of the JagCF These games will be not stock Jag compatible.

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

[Pocket]

Only 21 votes for this poll, it needs more participation

[Isgoed]

Since English isn't my native language, I find it somewhat difficult to understand exactly what you mean.

 

Are you talking about the idea of using the JagCF as some sort of cutle cart, so I can play all Jaguar cartridge games straight of the JagCF (after loading the ROM's into the CF) ?

Edited September 20, 2006 by Isgoed

[GT Turbo]

Since English isn't my native language, I find it somewhat difficult to understand exactly what you mean.

 

Sorry, next time i will ask Zerosquare (Who got a better english than mine ) to write the thread.

 

Are you talking about the idea of using the JagCD as some sort of cutle cart, so I can play all Jaguar cartridge games straight of the JagCF (after loading the ROM's into the CF) ?

 

Using JagCF for playing Jaguar cartridges, that means copying roms on CF and using it in JagCF like a normal cartridge.

 

 

GT

[Isgoed]

Thanks, now I understand

 

I just voted "no, I'm not for that".

 

I own most of the Jaguargames, and I like to "pick" a cartridge (or CD), and plug it in the Jaguar and play!

Playing all these games from one JagCF would make them feel "cheap", like playing games through an emulator.

 

However, I am curious about the possibilities of the JagCF and it's upcoming games, and I am thinking positive about the JagCF.

 

Seeing the number of positive votes, it's obvious that there are quite some people who have other thoughts about this

[JagChris]

Thanks, now I understand

 

I just voted "no, I'm not for that".

 

I own most of the Jaguargames, and I like to "pick" a cartridge (or CD), and plug it in the Jaguar and play!

Playing all these games from one JagCF would make them feel "cheap", like playing games through an emulator.

 

However, I am curious about the possibilities of the JagCF and it's upcoming games, and I am thinking positive about the JagCF.

 

Seeing the number of positive votes, it's obvious that there are quite some people who have other thoughts about this

 

Here is a man who truly loves his Jag!

[Michael_]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

[V.R]

"50 copies"

I hope the production is higher than that.

Yes I'll be using cartridges.

[Pocket]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

[Michael_]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

[Pocket]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

 

More than 50 people are interested only in France, so don't worry about the sales

[Michael_]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

 

More than 50 people are interested only in France, so don't worry about the sales

I´m not. There´s probably a whole Pirate community just waiting to get their hands on one.

[Pocket]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

 

More than 50 people are interested only in France, so don't worry about the sales

I´m not. There´s probably a whole Pirate community just waiting to get their hands on one.

 

You talked about numbers. And the people I was talking were interested before the idea of this feature was announced, so there is a whole community of serious people who will use this device

[Goochman]

Palmer,

 

The JagCF is no different than an iPod or RIO mp3 player. The digital maket would never have materialized if you couldnt use your old stuff on these new devices. Has some folks used it in the wrong way - sure, but it has also opened up new avenues for the digital media age.

 

Lets not cripple the JagCF due to FUD. All these issues you are worried about today can be accomplished with all the other 'loaders' out there as well. Dont single this out as the atom bomb of Jag piracy cause you are way overblowing it.

 

Like iTunes have protection for new music the JagCF will have for new games. Authors can put into their ROMs ways to detect the JagCF to prevent them from running on it, so please stop crying wolf over this.

 

Im sure there is a pirate group will all the Jag software today running off the Flash cart and other means. Crippling the JagCF wont accomplish changing this at all unless you can prove to me otherwise?

[agradeneu]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

 

More than 50 people are interested only in France, so don't worry about the sales

I´m not. There´s probably a whole Pirate community just waiting to get their hands on one.

 

Then farewell. If you really think that Cf is a device for piracy then you don't know what you are talking about. Then keep in mind that your assumptions about CF are NOT facts and very unreasonable. You should spread your hysteria with piracy elsewhere. Or PM the author of Virtual Jaguar or Project Tempest as in your view they were both promoting piracy.

Edited September 21, 2006 by agradeneu

[agradeneu]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

The first public run should be higher than that !

 

No shit. I was being ironic, seeing that not even 30 people are interested.

 

More than 50 people are interested only in France, so don't worry about the sales

I´m not. There´s probably a whole Pirate community just waiting to get their hands on one.

 

Then farewell. If you really think that Cf is a device for piracy then you don't know what you are talking about. Then keep in mind that your assumptions about CF are NOT facts and very unreasonable. You should spread your hysteria with piracy elsewhere. Or PM the author of Virtual Jaguar or Project Tempest as inyour views they were both promoting piracy.

[GT Turbo]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

You must know one thing, there will be a first edition of 20 JagCF for developpers and we are not sure that will be enough

 

 

 

GT

[EmOneGarand]

So, is this CF Cart going to be a general mass-market edition of..say 50 copies or are you going for a limited edition print-run of 30 copies?

 

You must know one thing, there will be a first edition of 20 JagCF for developpers and we are not sure that will be enough

 

 

 

GT

I think you should limit it to 1 per customer, it's alittle infuriating when one collector decides to buy 4 or 5 copies of a release just cause he can then gloat about it. I'm glad your not gonna limit it because I was rather agitated when Battleshere sold out like that then sprung up on Ebay, having to play hundreds of dollars for a single game or peripheral device isn't fair for people who just want to play them, keep up the great work man. Any idea how many will be ready for release to the rest of the community? and for that matter.. how do us Jag fans in the USA get a hold of one they are released?

 

as for everybody argueing about the legitimacy of the JagCF, grow up. It doesn't matter what happens, people are gonna always use things for "good" or for "evil" theirs no way to really regulate it. To deny an easier and cheaper way to produce new and exciting games for the jag just because it could be used for piracy is rather ignorant. Besides... rom dumps arn't always reliable, get garbled or corrupted during dumping, the newer Jag games havn't been dumped (as far as I know) so you don't have to worry about some poor person getting a hold of a rom of your $500+ Battlesphere cart...

Edited September 21, 2006 by EmOneGarand

[Michael_]

Then farewell. If you really think that Cf is a device for piracy then you don't know what you are talking about.

 

Hardly hysteria. More like a piece of good advice to people I don´t want to see get into unneccesary trouble. Your post´s a bit on the naive side, but that´s ok.

 

Anyway, I´ve done my bit. Whatever Jagware decide to do, they´ll be the ones to face whatever consequences that might arise, not I.

 

Common sense could theoretically still prevail.

[nico89]

i'm for! the jagCF look like a cool project!!

 

sorry if my englisch is bad but i'm DUTCH

[Michael_]

All these issues you are worried about today can be accomplished with all the other 'loaders' out there as well. Dont single this out as the atom bomb of Jag piracy cause you are way overblowing it.

That´s just the thing. I´ve had my Jaguar since 1994, been part of the whole "community" thing on and off since probably 1999 and to my recollection piracy regarding commercially released games has never even been a major issue...

 

You make it sound like there´s a whole industry out there on par with the C64 or Atari ST scene.

 

 

So. If I´m mistaken, you have a point, but a situation that still warrants careful scrutiny.

Edited September 22, 2006 by Palmer Eldritch

[Goochman]

All these issues you are worried about today can be accomplished with all the other 'loaders' out there as well. Dont single this out as the atom bomb of Jag piracy cause you are way overblowing it.

That´s just the thing. I´ve had my Jaguar since 1994, been part of the whole "community" thing on and off since probably 1999 and to me recollection piracy regarding commercially released games has never even been a major issue...

 

You make it sound like there´s a whole industry out there on par with the C64 or Atari ST scene.

 

 

So. If I´m mistaken, you have a point, but a situation that still warrants careful scrutiny.

 

No doubt - BJL, Flash Cart, Alpine boards and even the JUGs software that came with Battlesphere allow anyone with ill intent to do the things we are trying to avoid. The Jag scene is too small and 10 years past its prime to equal the C64 or ST scene. In some respects the ST scene is 10 years past its prime as well.

 

I see the JagCF as a *possible* way to infuse new interest in the Jag. We need to hear from those that actually plan on writing or publishing something to appease them - those are the folks that will carry the community forward. Without them we are stuck - and honestly we have been stuck here in the Jag scene for quite some time.

 

Im hoping the Stooges will come to some level of satisfaction to endorse this since they appear to be active and will continue to be. I havent seen any other publishers (well, those that plan on publishing) come out on either side.