Murph74 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'm still hoping that there's a TV out, preferably composite video or higher, and a 'simple' way to hack in a Cartridge port, like a USB dongle or something. Even if those are missing, I'm 99% sure I'm on the hook for one... just would much rather see all options included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Just noticed this post. Does anybody know the phone number of those Famiclone knockoff makers in Asia? They can probably make a FB2 faster than Atari could pronounce "Flashback". Sure, it wouldn't be legal, but at this point, who cares? Considering we own the FB2 chip and internals, and not Atari, we would care. Why are you suprised by this lax attitude concerning other peoples IP's? It's seems to be pretty common practice to many who visit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I want one of these so bad. Please someone invest in these. Anyone here rich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I want one of these so bad. Please someone invest in these. Anyone here rich? If I had the money Curt would have all his projects on the market. I'd definitely invest in these projects. I 's actually want to add that cart port via USB trickery and an adapter. The Bios in the unit(I am assuming there is one) would have to be able to recognize this device. Should not be too much of an issue(though can t be sure as I never coded USB stuff before.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Apocalypse Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I'm still hoping that there's a TV out, preferably composite video or higher, and a 'simple' way to hack in a Cartridge port, like a USB dongle or something. Even if those are missing, I'm 99% sure I'm on the hook for one... just would much rather see all options included. I'm pretty sure that the AV out is there as well as the AC adapter. I don't know the schematics, but based on the FB2 and classic USB controller, I'd bet the end product would be hackable. However, you won't need a cartridge port if there is a bin dump of it. And if you need it dumped, perhaps you could hire someone on AA to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulag picture radio Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Okay, here's a bit of additional news - I had to check and make sure it was cool to share this... Legacy has two models proposed depending on what investors choose to go with. The more advanced model would have TV out as well as an MP3 player. So the designs are there, it's just up to whatever investors they can scare up to make the choice. As far as playing downloaded roms, who knows? I would imagine that a big part of making money off of this unit will be charging for downloading games... but again - those are the sorts of things that investors discuss behind closed doors. I don't know if this is part of the plan, but it would rock if the MP3 players could play while you're gaming. Imagine setting up a playlist of your favorites 80's tunes to play in the background while you enjoy a bunch of Atari classics. I would also love S-video out since those super saturated colors in the typical Atari game would benefit from beter fidelity on today's screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapetino Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Okay, here's a bit of additional news - I had to check and make sure it was cool to share this... Legacy has two models proposed depending on what investors choose to go with. The more advanced model would have TV out as well as an MP3 player. So the designs are there, it's just up to whatever investors they can scare up to make the choice. As far as playing downloaded roms, who knows? I would imagine that a big part of making money off of this unit will be charging for downloading games... but again - those are the sorts of things that investors discuss behind closed doors. Yup, Marty talked about these things at the Midwest Gaming Classic. I believe he said the higher-end model would retail for something in the ballpark of $90, the less advanced for somewhere near $70. It does seem like having Atari, Activision, etc licensing games for download on this would be the main attraction for those companies to get involved. I wonder if this would mean that "other' roms found on the Net wouldn't work with it, or if there would be some kind of protection to keep people from adding those roms found online. And I will buy anything LE does like this when it comes to classic games, but for me, the TV out is an absolute must! I also can't imagine anything less than S-video or composite coming out of a new device. Would HDMI out me a possibility? Marty--thanks again for your presentation at MGC...it was great to meet and talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I wonder what the best way to handle "copy-protection" issues would be? It may be possible to make money on a popular game for a popular computer even if 90% of the copies out there are pirates, but on a comparatively obscure console that's not going to work. I have some ideas for how things could be implemented, but I'm not sure what would be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulag picture radio Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 The real question is whether they're aiming this as a mainstream product or as a collectible curiosity for people like us. I'd say that those price points put it outside of the impulse buy range... that's only $50-ish less than a DS, right? No matter how cool an Atari portable is, it's going to be tough to convince a regular person looking for a nostalgia kick that $70 or $90 is a good price. For guys like us, and for higher end markets than impulse buy, this can probably work. While so many of us have been juggling ROM's for years, most of the buyers for this thing probably haven't. they're used to the iTunes model too, so if the prices for downloaded games are reasonable, the could probably have some pretty good success in that are too. My desire for MP3 playback during games could open up deals for selling packs of music too maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph74 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) The real question is whether they're aiming this as a mainstream product or as a collectible curiosity for people like us. I'd say that those price points put it outside of the impulse buy range... that's only $50-ish less than a DS, right? No matter how cool an Atari portable is, it's going to be tough to convince a regular person looking for a nostalgia kick that $70 or $90 is a good price. I agree. If there's a way to get this to $50 or less, I'd probably take $10k out of my retirement to invest. (No, not sarcasm, but need to see more before I'd commit. And even tha may be deemed unworthy.) And the earlier comment about not needing a cartridge port or adapter, I still think it's a sales point. Anyone who has Atari carts (more than most might think!) would be a candidate for the adapter, as would those of us here who A) have the game and don't wanna buy the rom again, B) want to test carts in the wild, or C) the rom isn't available but we have the cart. Just my opinion. Edited April 1, 2009 by Murph74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would also love S-video out since those super saturated colors in the typical Atari game would benefit from beter fidelity on today's screens. Ummm... NONE of the 8-bit Atari consoles had saturated colors. Quite the opposite, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulag picture radio Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You're telling me that those big solid blocks of color on an Atari 2600 game don't look saturated to anyone besides me? Has someone recently changed the meaning of "saturation"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbanes Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You're telling me that those big solid blocks of color on an Atari 2600 game don't look saturated to anyone besides me? Has someone recently changed the meaning of "saturation"? I don't think so... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation_(color_theory) In colorimetry and color theory, colorfulness, chroma, and saturation are related but distinct concepts referring to the perceived intensity of a specific color. Colorfulness is the difference between a color against gray. Chroma is the difference of a color against the brightness of another color which appears white under similar viewing conditions. Saturation is the difference of a color against its own brightness. The saturation of a color is determined by a combination of light intensity and how much it is distributed across the spectrum of different wavelengths. The purest color is achieved by using just one wavelength at a high intensity, such as in laser light. If the intensity drops, so does the saturation. Unless you've jacked up the controls on your TV, there's no way a 2600 is putting out a highly saturated palette. In fact, the color tones on the 2600 are rather bland. Which is somewhat compensated for by the surprisingly high number of colors the 2600 can generate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You're telling me that those big solid blocks of color on an Atari 2600 game don't look saturated to anyone besides me? Has someone recently changed the meaning of "saturation"? That depends. What do you think "saturated" means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+swlovinist Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I would love to see the flashback portable happen. With the new Nes and Genesis portables coming out between $60 and $70, I could see this as a great buy at around the same price. There is a market for retro systems, and it appears that retro portables are the next thing. I absolutely love the flashback 2, and will continue to pray that this project gets a commercial release. If I had extra money, I would give it. Until then, my prayers will have to do. Good luck to all who are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaki Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Sweet, looks like stuff's been happening when I wasn't paying attention. The prototype looks a bit bigger than I thought it would be, or maybe I'm just used to my Game Boy Micro (which can only play a handful of 2600 games, at a decent, but not perfect, speed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbudrick Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 It's cool to see that video interview, but there's still no release date stated, or even a general range of a date. This soap opera is getting scary! -Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKoopa Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 just watched the video interview and my jaw dropped. it was awesome to see it in video i hope some investors grab this opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Come on, let's get some updates and make this happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Avallon Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I hope to see this marvelous little machine out on the near future, with tv out at least (this is a must!), this MP3 player function is very interesting I am looking forward to some updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyd97 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 what is the FB2+ going to be now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 what is the FB2+ going to be now? A salad mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 A question for wgungfu/curt regarding A proposed fb2 portable I just seen 2 or more yootoob clips of so called atari flashback portables (including something called 'multari'), is this your work or is this someone doing a hack of your work (i.e a homebrew) unfortunately i can't remember the links exactly but i saw the clips by typing in atari portable into the yootoob search bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 oops, found links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc94oU1AoJI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn Engineer Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 First two are Work in progress videos of my Flashback portable im making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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