JagFan422 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 is there a reason why the 2600 and the 7800 have them but not the 5200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Well, the 8bit has one also Lack of interest in the past - the 7800 one has gone through starts and stops as well. If we are playing agame in the 8bit HSC that is available on the 5200 I will accept scores from those as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The MindMaster Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I think that an Adventure 2 competition, when it comes out, might peak some 5200 interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagFan422 Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 Well, the 8bit has one also Lack of interest in the past - the 7800 one has gone through starts and stops as well. If we are playing agame in the 8bit HSC that is available on the 5200 I will accept scores from those as well. ok, didn't know that so i will keep my eye on the 8-bit compos then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showforum=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Yeah, I run the 7800 one in seasons. When I began my first season with it last year, Goochman pretty much explained that due to the small library, it can't be sustained year round. Interest drops during the summer anyway. I thought of trying to handle a 5200 competition as well, but I decided against it for a few reasons: 1. Small library. See the 7800 comments above. 2. I didn't want to interfere with the 8-bit competition. 3. Probably the most important, I simply don't have that many 5200 games. I feel like the person who runs the competition needs access to as many of the actual games and as much actual hardware as possible. They'd need to make recommendations for strategy and controllers, and I can't do that with my meager stack of 17 carts. On the other hand, I have most of the carts from the 7800 library, and many of those are CIB. I can look at the boxes and instructions for ideas on how to set up the competition each week. Another tip, start with homebrews. We started the 7800 comeptition with Beef Drop, and IMO, it was a very successful week. Rarity plays a factor in participation. Bounty Bob Strikes Back is a great game, but very few people who would be interested in a competition actually have the cart. I ran into this with Mean 18 Ultimate Golf last year. The same applies for rare hardware--if the game needs special hardware, participation will drop. Given the cost of a Wico stick, hardware might pose a greater problem in a 5200 competition than it does for the 7800. Still, if you want to start one up, go for it. It's a lot of fun to see people improve, then get competitive, then improve some more, and then share their thoughts about the game. It's quite a challenge to beat their scores, too, and it definitely makes the person running the competition into a better (insert system name here) player all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I would participate in a 5200 HSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 What might work well is if everyone who played had one of Classics 128n1 carts - plenty of fun to compete with there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 What might work well is if everyone who played had one of Classics 128n1 carts - plenty of fun to compete with there I agree, but many don't have one of those. You could allow emulators though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Just start one and give it a few days / a week, I'll play along as long as I own the cart / can get it the ROM for my Maxi cart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari5200 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 emulators would not be allowed only because i think it would be to easy to take a screen shot and photo shop a bogus score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 emulators would not be allowed only because i think it would be to easy to take a screen shot and photo shop a bogus score. I allow emus to keep participation up - if there is nothing on the line but pride then I would suggest allowing emu's. I think there has only been 1 case of 'fraud' detected during the 2600 Olympic challenge a few yers back, otherwise everyone is just having fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) emulators would not be allowed only because i think it would be to easy to take a screen shot and photo shop a bogus score. I think you might rethink that. All of the other HSCs allow emulators because there are alot of games that very few people have. If you only allow real hardware, you aren't going to get much response. Many people don't even post screen shots of their scores at all. I wouldn't worry about cheaters. After all, its just for fun Edited April 5, 2007 by Lord Helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) If it's not played at the very least with actual 5200 controllers, be they originals, the Wico or a Competition Pro, all which pretty much require a 5200 console, then the score isn't legitimate. If you go the EMU route, we might as well be playing the Atari 800. Edited April 5, 2007 by Gunstarhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 So those of us that use the Redemption adapter should be left out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) So those of us that use the Redemption adapter should be left out? Yes, because you have an unfair advantage (I'm kidding, of course) Edited April 5, 2007 by accousticguitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 IMHO, as long as the 5200 console is the unit being played, it's fair game. Another thing against EMU is that they allow save states, which is definitely unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 IMHO, as long as the 5200 console is the unit being played, it's fair game. Another thing against EMU is that they allow save states, which is definitely unfair. Save states are not allowed in any of the HSCs - play by the honor system - the 8bit one has been alot of fun and Ive played new games Ive never seen before. Easy way to learn more about the system you love to play - thats how Id view vs competiton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Emulator for a HSC is mind-numbingly idiotic to me. That defeats the whole purpose. The 5200 is pretty unique in that most of the games are common and great, we don't all have to be playing the super hard to find games like Meteorites and BBSB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Yes, but there are several unreleased games that are very good that shouldn't be left out...like Millipede and Super Pac-Man. Not a problem for those of us with the usb cart, but others might want to play as well. Also, the 5200 wasn't released overseas, which will limit this HSC to mostly Americans. Either way, I'll participate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari5200 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 ok ok. Here's what i'm thinking. 1. trust. though I would love to have all high scores posted with screen shots. If you are unable to do this, then no big deal, the scoring will be based upon the honor system. 2. emu or no emu. I think it should truely be dependent upon the game. For example, If I chose Spy Hunter, then yes i would bet most people would need to use an emu where as I do not, or people with the multi-cart will not. All in all, I'm thinking emu will be allowed. 3. controller, I don't care about that, because if I participated in the 2600 compo i'd use a Genesis pad. So i don't care what controller is actually used. 4. most importantly, there must be trash talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Bring it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Emu or Not, I will most likely win everything. I just want equal gameplay experience becuase I will then win by more points....all things being equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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