Bryan Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 Now if it was reversable and could let me use a 5200 controller on the Jag, you might have something. Jag fans are crazy and would probably go for it! You want Jaguar fans snatching up the last remaining functional 5200 sticks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINGLE TOOTH Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The main thing is, I just want a controller that I can plug in and play. I hate having to rip a controller apart just to play a few quick games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Jag fans are crazy and would probably go for it! You want Jaguar fans snatching up the last remaining functional 5200 sticks?? There are functional 5200 sticks? LOL The last thing we need is for shithead4u to start buying up 5200 sticks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 There are functional 5200 sticks? Yes, the ones that have been properly rebuilt within the last couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjb Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 You can count me in for at least a couple if not more! tjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Hi I want one too. greetings gambler172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Bryan, I was on the fence on calling it 1st or 2nd generation. But I get your point. And I suppose I can't fault the idea of making more *alternatives* available for the 5200 system. Although all the people complaining about no alternatives being available must have missed the Redemption Controller, the PMP 5200 RSI mod stick, and the handful of other digital alternatives to the 5200 stock controller. Although I suppose Jass Reagan's complaint has more truth to it than he may understand. Even if you get a digital stick, the controller logic built into the 5200 itself is analog. You're not going to get away from that unless you figure out how to cut some traces on the motherboard and rewire your own digital I/O interface... At which point, you probably should have just picked up an Atari 800XL... the BEST digital stick adapter for the Atari 5200. I dunno. I suppose it can't hurt to have more choices. Personally, if D-pad solutions worked well for me, I never would have bought the real hardware because emulation is pretty close, and free, to the real deal. By the time I really started getting my real hardware collection together, emulation had gotten much better and decent classic style USB sticks had become more widely available and reasonable. But, playing a 5200 game with a Logitech or Thrustmaster or Gravis never gave me the kind of precise control on classic arcade style games that I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share Posted September 9, 2007 (edited) I had an idea for a 2nd adapter (once I get this one done). An adapter could be made that makes most defective sticks work without opening them. Instead of requiring good contact within the controller, a circuit could be made that only requires weak contact or uses the improved capacitive coupling achieved when pushing the button against the contacts. When inserted between the controller and the base unit, just about any old stick could be used. Edited September 9, 2007 by Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Paranoid, have you ever tried building a PC controller adapter for the Atari 5200? It's extremely versatile, offering support for both analog AND digital controllers. It's also easy and inexpensive to build... you just need a couple of .22u capacitors, some wire, three 15-pin solder cup connectors (one male, two female), and a couple hours of labor. Couple it with a good old-school PC joypad and you're ready to rumble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SINGLE TOOTH Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Paranoid, have you ever tried building a PC controller adapter for the Atari 5200? It's extremely versatile, offering support for both analog AND digital controllers. It's also easy and inexpensive to build... you just need a couple of .22u capacitors, some wire, three 15-pin solder cup connectors (one male, two female), and a couple hours of labor. Couple it with a good old-school PC joypad and you're ready to rumble! got a link for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I certainly do! http://www.atarihq.com/5200/5200faq/06_04.html This adapter works beautifully... I just tested it out with an old digital joypad I had buried in a box of old gadgets, and it performed wonderfully. I can only imagine how great it would be with a joypad that hasn't been through so much abuse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I looked into a few of those alternatives, but never went forward with it. 15 pin PC controllers are becoming hard to find, though, in these days of USB... That may have been what made me decide not to build this, actually, and made me go with the PMP 5200 stick, instead. I was looking at both around the same time. The PMP 5200 stick is a biiiatch to build... but it sure is fun once you get it working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) I dunno... I think it's pretty easy to pimp your 5200 controller! Edited September 12, 2007 by Jess Ragan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonie Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) I'd like a controller- ANY controller!- that can divorce the 5200 from those insidious analog joysticks. I just wired up an adapter that lets me connect PC joysticks to the Atari 5200, and it works extremely well... far better than the stock controller ever had, that's for sure. However, without an adequate keypad, I'm still forced to start games with that rotten thing. I need to determine the pinout for that Atari keypad I purchased from BG Electronics... once I've figured it out, I'll be able to throw those awful stock controllers in the closet for good. Jess, Thanks for the link. Edited September 12, 2007 by Zonie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonpatrol Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) I've whipped up a prototype 5200->Jaguar controller adapter. The Jag controller is one of the few that has the requisite number of buttons. Right now it works as follows: All functions are as you would imagine except: OPTION is START A is top button B is bottom button RESET could be implemented as C+OPTION (not sure yet) Stick can operate as analog (varies as you hold direction) or digital (snaps to extreme positions). I'm working on the details, but it would end up being a very small inline device. I'm not sure whether to try and pot it, or put it in a small box. How much interest would there be in this? -Bry Edited September 30, 2007 by moonpatrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonpatrol Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I've whipped up a prototype 5200->Jaguar controller adapter. The Jag controller is one of the few that has the requisite number of buttons. Right now it works as follows: All functions are as you would imagine except: OPTION is START A is top button B is bottom button RESET could be implemented as C+OPTION (not sure yet) Stick can operate as analog (varies as you hold direction) or digital (snaps to extreme positions). I'm working on the details, but it would end up being a very small inline device. I'm not sure whether to try and pot it, or put it in a small box. How much interest would there be in this? -Bry I'm interested in at least two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I've whipped up a prototype 5200->Jaguar controller adapter. The Jag controller is one of the few that has the requisite number of buttons. Right now it works as follows: All functions are as you would imagine except: OPTION is START A is top button B is bottom button RESET could be implemented as C+OPTION (not sure yet) Stick can operate as analog (varies as you hold direction) or digital (snaps to extreme positions). I'm working on the details, but it would end up being a very small inline device. I'm not sure whether to try and pot it, or put it in a small box. How much interest would there be in this? -Bry I'm interested in at least two of them. Count me in for atleast 1 if not two! Would love the option of using the Jag controller without the need for the 5200 controller to start the game, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I'm still pursuing this, I just have a family issue that takes most of my free time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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