Rybags Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 There is an alternative. Remap everything to a bitmap screen, using 7x8 "font", which would use 154 pixels total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Ja, genau... no thanks... Rybags...feel free to do Metallama DX-version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Maybe just leave it at 22 columns. Have a "<" or ">" appear on the line below to remind the player of where they are when in the overscan area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Rybags...did you play the "overscan" version with the indicators? if so... i should change the shape of the indicators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Haven't played it since one of the weekend releases. And, not on the real machine yet. So, I'm probably a bit out of date with developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 yup. get the one prior "2b"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 OK. Played the scrolling version a while ago. Agreed, it becomes confusing/disorienting. And, yes, fine scroll wouldn't really suit since the player moves in character increments. So, 22 col with indicators or hack to 20 column seems the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjomki Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 OK. Played the scrolling version a while ago. Agreed, it becomes confusing/disorienting. And, yes, fine scroll wouldn't really suit since the player moves in character increments. So, 22 col with indicators or hack to 20 column seems the way to go. Played the game with scrolling for a while. It is a nice little game with a lot of fun. Thanks Heaven/TQA for the conversion! But I agree with Rybags that scrolling has to be avoided. I tried to get used to it but in the end I got confused too much. So I'd vote for the overscan version with indicators. Regards, patjomki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun.Bebbington Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 here is a quick Mets 20x23 version.... play it... play it several times and let me know... (yes... no text patches made, no title screen, indicators still working) I personally perfer the "22 column with slight scroll" version, once I got used to it, it wasn't that confusing. The game is great fun anyway. Missing out 2 columns won't make much difference to the game-play as such. Regards, Shaun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun.Bebbington Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 BTW - Can you please let me know when I can review this game? Regards, Shaun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) i am just converting the score panel plus score routines to 20x screen... but i want to have it finished this sunday. Edited February 14, 2008 by Heaven/TQA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 ok...here is a full converted 20x23 version of the game without scrolling... please play it again and several times... all score routines are patched and reworked for 6 digits instead of 7...so highscore routine after game over should work, the quota counter & bonus counter should work...same goes to the "add bonus" routine... so if there is something you might discover please let me know... mets2b.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjomki Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 ok...here is a full converted 20x23 version of the game without scrolling... please play it again and several times... all score routines are patched and reworked for 6 digits instead of 7...so highscore routine after game over should work, the quota counter & bonus counter should work...same goes to the "add bonus" routine... so if there is something you might discover please let me know... First of all I'd like to say that this version doesn't confuse me. The game develops in the right direction. I discovered a little bug when playing in ATARI800 WinPlus 4.0 (didn't have any time to test it on real hardware yet). Whenever I press the cursor keys (the real ones not the ones on the numpad) the game immediately freezes. Regards, patjomki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 keyboard bug... it should be not the game as i have standard OS enabled. and in the game itself there is no keyboard scanning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I just ran it and can replicate the problem. Seems only to happen at the level start, on any key press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 maybe some sei/cli issue in the vic code... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 I discovered a little bug when playing in ATARI800 WinPlus 4.0 (didn't have any time to test it on real hardware yet). Whenever I press the cursor keys (the real ones not the ones on the numpad) the game immediately freezes...Hi Heaven, I noticed this too but I forgot to mention it to you, it happens in-game to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 it's not a bug it's a feature "endless pause key function anytime!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 it's not a bug it's a feature "endless pause key function anytime!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 15, 2008 Author Share Posted February 15, 2008 it seems that Jeff's games are really classics... how the hell could we discuss & comment so long for a small 3,5kb game (minus video ram...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjomki Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 it's not a bug it's a feature "endless pause key function anytime!" So you are not going to fix it? Regards, patjomki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 of course I will look into it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjomki Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 of course I will look into it... Great. Guess this little game can be as much fun as "Venus". Play this a lot. Regards, patjomki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 but Atari800win 4.0 version does not crash while pressing a key... so if it works on real machine I can not see what the reason is... so as it seems now it is an emu issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) but Atari800win 4.0 version does not crash while pressing a key... so if it works on real machine I can not see what the reason is... so as it seems now it is an emu issue...It'll be interesting to learn what's caused it in the emu to avoid debugging something that is actually written correctly! I had a similar issue with a php server upgrade during the week. A lot of time can be wasted when the fault lies elsewhere. It's good that it has been noticed. Another good thing comes from your project Heaven! The game is very addictive, it is certainly a game in a pure form. Edited February 17, 2008 by Tezz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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