Cap5750 Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I received a copy of Solaris (red label) in a box of stuff I got recently. I've used several different systems (jrs, 4 switch, 6 switch, etc) and all of them have the game screen come up, but it is rolling in a fashion much like you'd see in the old days if your vertical hold was off. My first thought was that maybe the contacts were a little dirty so I took a small piece of sandpaper (I read about this somewhere) and gently went over the metal leads. No help. The only thing I can think of now is that maybe the cart is a PAL version? How would I know? Or that the cart is just bad. Thoughts? Cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 The only thing I can think of now is that maybe the cart is a PAL version? How would I know? It does sound like the behavior of a PAL cart on NTSC tv. Did any of the other carts in the same box exhibit this behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap5750 Posted September 6, 2002 Author Share Posted September 6, 2002 Nope...just that one. Cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I'd say you have a PAL cart. Are the colors slightly off? I had this EXACT same problem, and Crossbow was nice enough to dissect mine and he did indeed discover it to be a PAL version in a normal looking cart. So from experience, I'd say you have a PAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Humm? Is the picture on the label black and white or is it color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap5750 Posted September 6, 2002 Author Share Posted September 6, 2002 Label is red...picture is black and white. Cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Yes, I think Stan is right. Well, I think that is how the label on the North American version looks. It was probably a lack of quality control on the assembly line. I might have an extra NTSC version of Solaris I could trade to you if you need it I'll check out my extras sometime tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyImpmon Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I also got this PAL in NTSC bug. Some years ago, I found a number of 2600 games new at a dollar store. One of them was Solaris. But that game rolled even though all other games played fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 But I have one that rolls too, and I bought it in a $1 bin right here in the heart of America. Did Atari just louse up a whole print run of these or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 It looks like a whole run of PAL Solaris carts were mislabeled as NTSC ones. I think Atari quality control was somewhat below par in the late 80's. I wonder exactly how may "messed up" Solaris carts were produced. I wonder if our PAL " brothers in Atari" got a bunch of NTSC carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 I got a bunch of NTSC carts that work fine...except a copy of Buck Rogers, that is rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osmeroid Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 You've just gotta' see Dolphin on a PAL system! The ocean looks like it's made from blood My copy of Solaris has a colour label but it is PAL. For you guys in the US & Canada - do all PAL carts roll badly on NTSC systems? Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyImpmon Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 When playing PAL games on NTSC TV, the picture rolls roughly 5-6 times per seconds. Adjusting the V-Hold may help but not all TV has the V-Hold these day. I also noticed the lack of color on PAL version of Solaris as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Mine is a red label with a faded B&W picture. And Cosmic Joke, would you be willing to trade straight up for the PAL Solaris or are you looking for something else? (If he doesn't want to trade you that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcprs1 Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 My NTSC solaris does the same thing. It would appear that this was a widespread problem with this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyImpmon Posted September 6, 2002 Share Posted September 6, 2002 Yes but red label Solaris with B&W picture do exists in NTSC form. I have 1, maybe 2 NTSC version along with 1 PAL Solaris. I did notice a difference: the NTSC version's end label is the same dull red as the main label but the PAL version the end label is a shade brighter and more red. I wonder if this is true for all other Solaris? I wonder how many mislabeled Solaris got returned and/or destroyed? I'd bet there's a million mislabeled Solaris buried in the landfill right on top of those ET carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted September 8, 2002 Share Posted September 8, 2002 I just took my complete and boxed copy my wife purchased on eBay for my birthday out of the box and stuck it in my 2600 Jr. Just like my loose copy of the game, it rolls and rolls and rolls. Red box, red label. I'm beginning to wonder if ANY of the NTSC labelled Solaris were made right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hi there! *bumped* I got a bunch of NTSC carts that work fine...except a copy of Buck Rogers, that is rolling. This is interesting. My copy of Buck Rogers has the screen jumping at random intervals during the surface scenes, so maybe it's NTSC too. But normally I have no problems with NTSC ROMs at all... Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I had a normal looking Solaris that rolled on my TV too. I didn't realize it was such a widespread phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 I have a solaris that rolls also. I got it from a friend because it "didn't work" and it doesn't work for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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