GreenDayRlz Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 If the X-Clamps worked, The Micro wouldn't melt off the boad. It would melt the solder at the joints, But it would be held down to the board (Meaning contaact to the pins) If they put more fans around the Micro, Like one on the fan and 4 REALLY small ans to blow on the pins to cool them down, They wouldn't melt and X-Clamps would not be needed. If they went with a ZIF socket, It has a chance of melting the plastic, But it can't not make contact if the socket stays clamped shut. There's Multiple Solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 (edited) Delete...Again....Sorry. Edited December 20, 2008 by GreenDayRlz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 (edited) Delete this......Java screwed my computer up. Edited December 20, 2008 by GreenDayRlz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 203 watt - Zephyr (first model made since launch)175 watt - Falcon (2nd models completely replacing the first in stores January 2008) 150 watt - Jasper (3rd model still quite new that may or maynot be available depending on where you buy it) *product sticker on the boxes are known to give false info on the power supply so only a visual inspection can be trusted. Sorry I meant the 203 watt is the first model made since launch and the Zephyr mobo revision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Sent out a few days ago on wednesday.............waiting now for the return. Been thinking about saving money every month to try and find a jasper but I think I'll wait to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticGamer Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'm now pretty positive mine's a Jasper. It's cool, quiet and has a power plug much like Ben Heck described, even if it still uses the 175 Watt power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm now pretty positive mine's a Jasper. It's cool, quiet and has a power plug much like Ben Heck described, even if it still uses the 175 Watt power. Easy way to check is check the power rating on the back of the unit. If it says 12.1 Amp instead of 14.2 Amp, its a Jasper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 hi new to the xbox family. I just recently bought a xbox 360 arcade. dec. 20. 2008. fired her up dec. 21. 2008. So we'll see how long she'll live before the Red Ring of DEATH occures. Keep you all posted! corby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Well...after the close call the other night, I fired up my 360 on Friday evening and it RROD'd again...this time for good. Immediately bought a replacement via Best Buy's "in-store pickup." With the arcade unit being 200 bucks, I figured I could afford a second one in case MS won't fix my old one...it's a 2006 model. Tried to start a repair order online last night...and ended up having to call MS because my console was "already registered." They told me to call back later because they couldn't access my account due to them being in the middle of an upgrade to the system. guess I'll try it again today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Microsoft should own up to their systems sucking. I wouldn't mind if they made the box a little biger that the CPU is in, Because they tried to make it small, And it's harder for heat to disapate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Well...after the close call the other night, I fired up my 360 on Friday evening and it RROD'd again...this time for good. Immediately bought a replacement via Best Buy's "in-store pickup." With the arcade unit being 200 bucks, I figured I could afford a second one in case MS won't fix my old one...it's a 2006 model. Tried to start a repair order online last night...and ended up having to call MS because my console was "already registered." They told me to call back later because they couldn't access my account due to them being in the middle of an upgrade to the system. guess I'll try it again today. I know the feeling. Checked my status today and its in "repair" status. Hopefully I'll get mine back by next week. I'll be moving my unit out to an open space to eliminate any possible heat issues for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Well...after the close call the other night, I fired up my 360 on Friday evening and it RROD'd again...this time for good. Immediately bought a replacement via Best Buy's "in-store pickup." With the arcade unit being 200 bucks, I figured I could afford a second one in case MS won't fix my old one...it's a 2006 model. Tried to start a repair order online last night...and ended up having to call MS because my console was "already registered." They told me to call back later because they couldn't access my account due to them being in the middle of an upgrade to the system. guess I'll try it again today. I know the feeling. Checked my status today and its in "repair" status. Hopefully I'll get mine back by next week. I'll be moving my unit out to an open space to eliminate any possible heat issues for the future. Yeah, I didn't want to chance not having it over the holidays, so I just bought another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticGamer Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I'm now pretty positive mine's a Jasper. It's cool, quiet and has a power plug much like Ben Heck described, even if it still uses the 175 Watt power. Easy way to check is check the power rating on the back of the unit. If it says 12.1 Amp instead of 14.2 Amp, its a Jasper. It says 14.2, but can't it be a Jasper? Even if its a Falcon, the thing does not seem to get any problems. But I may be wrong and RROD may be on the reaper's list for my console, for which I will curse M$ forever but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Maybe we should buy those coolers for our 360's....Even tho their 3rd party. And "Repair" my ass. They probably just throw the damn thing away and send you a new one....Throw it out after they take out all the ports and diskdrive to put back onto the assembly line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 It says 14.2, but can't it be a Jasper? Even if its a Falcon, the thing does not seem to get any problems. But I may be wrong and RROD may be on the reaper's list for my console, for which I will curse M$ forever but whatever. Nah. You can power a Jasper with an old power supply for sure, but if it were a Jasper it would say 12.1 Amps. Based on Bens finding though, there's really not a whole lot of difference between the two so don't sweat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticGamer Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 It says 14.2, but can't it be a Jasper? Even if its a Falcon, the thing does not seem to get any problems. But I may be wrong and RROD may be on the reaper's list for my console, for which I will curse M$ forever but whatever. Nah. You can power a Jasper with an old power supply for sure, but if it were a Jasper it would say 12.1 Amps. Based on Bens finding though, there's really not a whole lot of difference between the two so don't sweat it. Well Ben said he found a 14.2 amp from a Jasper line so it's possible. Anyway I shouldn't have problems with it. I don't play like 20+ hours or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The length of time you game per session has no bearing on reliability. It's not like the temperature just keeps increasing until it cooks off the longer you play. It probably reaches it maximum temperature in 15-20 minutes before it stabilizes anyway. Since it's so random, the same failure may take only a day for one system, and a couple years for another depending on the severity of the defect, not how much it's being used. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. Limiting yourself based on fears of hardware failure will only deny you the pleasure of gaming and make sure it runs past the warranty period before it does. My first X360 lasted a year and 8 months and it was used heavily, sometimes for marathon sessions of 12-14 hours. My Second machine with the newer chip lasted less than 10 months and I tried to be more careful and do all of the things your probably thinking of doing right now. It didn't make a bit of difference because you can't predict failure like this. I've heard of RRoD's from people who said they didn't touch the system for weeks at a time only to turn it on one day and there it was. Saving it for a rainy day won't extend it so enjoy it while you can. You just have to ask yourself if the hundreds you spend on the games per year is worth the $199 for an Arcade model, $100 for a non-warranty repair or a few weeks of living without it for a free repair every year or so. Now you know how PC gamers feel about upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well, after 40+ minutes on the phone with MS support, my old 360 is finally registered and a service request has been started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Maybe we should buy those coolers for our 360's....Even tho their 3rd party. And "Repair" my ass. They probably just throw the damn thing away and send you a new one....Throw it out after they take out all the ports and diskdrive to put back onto the assembly line. Ha....I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Bill Gates does, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Update in case anyone wants to know what Microsoft did for me: Got my machine back this weekend. Its a different machine definitely. Plugged in my hard drive, signed into Xbox Live and everything back to normal. They gave me a free one month Gold membership for my "inconvenience". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Update in case anyone wants to know what Microsoft did for me: Got my machine back this weekend. Its a different machine definitely. Plugged in my hard drive, signed into Xbox Live and everything back to normal. They gave me a free one month Gold membership for my "inconvenience". You're going to want to disconnect from Live and make sure your Arcade games are still playable. If they revert to the trial version when off-line. try to delete a few and re-download them. If those still are the trial version you need to transfer the licenses to the new machine (MS should have does this for you) off the Xbox.com support website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Update in case anyone wants to know what Microsoft did for me: Got my machine back this weekend. Its a different machine definitely. Plugged in my hard drive, signed into Xbox Live and everything back to normal. They gave me a free one month Gold membership for my "inconvenience". You're going to want to disconnect from Live and make sure your Arcade games are still playable. If they revert to the trial version when off-line. try to delete a few and re-download them. If those still are the trial version you need to transfer the licenses to the new machine (MS should have does this for you) off the Xbox.com support website. Cool thanks, I'll try that. I didnt think about disconnecting and trying them. Actually, it came with a piece of paper which seemed a bit out of date that said I needed to re-download the license files. When I tried the games they worked fine but I will try them when disconnected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Just for future reference: Fixing the RROD takes about an hour if you've not done it before, you just need a kit consisting of washers and screws. Fixed the 360's I've bought cheap (knackered) on eBay so far, playing Dead Rising and other demanding games. Even left them on all day and they're fine. Only time it won't work is if you've knackered the chip doing other 'repair attempts' first like I did on my first RROD. You can get the kits in on-line shops (can't remember where I got mine) or from eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayRlz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 No offense, But I'd rather wait and get it done for free from Microsoft.....AND get the newer model Microprocessor. I told you his 360 console would go to the dump :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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