joesmooth Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Umm. I got it from. Uhh I can't remember his name, but he was part of NWCGE with you and then moved to Maine and Hawaii. He made the "Aartridge", too.. Kevin....? Anyway, it was a neat looking label, but I had to trim down my collection to make room for all of those import carts that Jah was supposed to send me! Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted February 24, 2003 Share Posted February 24, 2003 Just to keep you updated: I tried to reach Fish and Nicolas Neugebauer by phone this weekend without having success. And his ex-wife doesn't have (or doesn't tell?) any new information too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Umm. I got it from. Uhh I can't remember his name, but he was part of NWCGE with you and then moved to Maine and Hawaii. He made the "Aartridge", too.. Kevin....? Ah! I own an Aartridge now! Paul Tomlinson is the guy you're thinking of. BTW, I'd love to get my hands on A#1 Fancy Lable [sic] Club carts, or Zimot carts. Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Jah owes me for a Thrust Plus w/ Footpedal, too. He also owes me the following items: Thanks for reminding me -- Jah also owes me other things besides Thrust+ as well, in case you're keeping track fo that too. I don't remember everything he owes offhand, but a Gamate & games is part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted March 6, 2003 Author Share Posted March 6, 2003 so no word at all from jah... TJ do you plan on doing anything, or is this officially a write-off now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIPITBULL Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 This is just great, all that money I paid has just gone down the drain, Jah fish had better hope that I don't get a chance to go to Germany any time soon!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 I am not prepared to write this/him off, not just yet! Anyone have any more ideas on what to do?? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 so no word at all from jah... TJ do you plan on doing anything, or is this officially a write-off now? I'm still waiting for some response from an attorney (should be just a matter of a few days). I will tell you the results here and then we can decide how to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Great - thanks Thomas! Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Great... I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 Feedback from the attorney (thanks Marc ): Fish owes us the money, there is no doubt here! Someone can ask for a court order representing all creditors. All creditors must convey their claims to this person, verfiy that the claim exists and sign a form for costs splitting, so that the complainant doesn't have to pay the costs alone when Fish can't pay (which IMO might happen). The costs would be e.g. about 340€ (1€ currently ~$1.10) for a total sum of 2,500€ or 650€ for 5,000€ (looks like we get a small discount here ). If the court order is appealed this can rise up to 1000€. So now it's up to us to decide which way to go. I already have somebody voluntering to be the complainant (many thanks!). All we need now are the names of those who want to go that way. We need them to tell (here or by mail to me) the amount of money he owes them and a verification. And they should be willing to sign that form for the cost splitting (probably based on the amount of money claimed). I will start with €700 lend to him plus $5 for every sold (payed?) copy (does anybody know if he selled any at eBay?). If somebody knows a better way, I would like to hear that now. BTW: Should we open a new thread (or temporary forum) for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted March 7, 2003 Author Share Posted March 7, 2003 boy, im glad I ordered two. :-( I wonder if paypal will give me money back... (Sunday May 26th, 2002: This email confirms that you sent $118.00 to paypal@nicoflash.de. ------------------------------ Payment Details ------------------------------ Amount: 118.00) Thats my info i can get more detailed if you need, paypal still has it in my history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted March 7, 2003 Share Posted March 7, 2003 You gotta love the court system -- I gotta pay just to get my money back. Nice. But I guess it might be worth it. I'm not saying I'm aboard yet, as I'd still like to give this guy a try to send my stuff, since there were other things... But, what kind of documentation do they need? All I'd be able to provide would be emails I've saved into a file, and maybe some PayPal info. I mean, is that good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 8, 2003 Share Posted March 8, 2003 You should at least try to get your money back via PayPal first. Else the courts might not accept those claims. (I'm not sure about that) It also might save you some money if we should fail and pressure from more than one side should be helpful too. BTW: How many of you did (like me) send the money to some of Fish's friends? There might be a chance those poor guys have to pay instead (if we want to go that way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 on the thrust+ site(?) there was a section that had a list of names and the # for the person! did anyone get a print out of it when it had some names on it? fish sent me the URL after i paid and i looked at it (saw my name and few others and i deleted the e-mail) i never thought to print it out! did anyone?? Take Care, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 BTW: How many of you did (like me) send the money to some of Fish's friends? There might be a chance those poor guys have to pay instead (if we want to go that way). I paid that Nico guy, btw did you try his phonenumber, to see whats happening? -Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 I paid that Nico guy, btw did you try his phonenumber, to see whats happening? I tried, but without success so far. But it looks like he might be in trouble when Fish refuses to repay or deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Maybe I should come over to Berlin, bring my baseball bat - Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 on the thrust+ site(?) there was a section that had a list of names and the # for the person! did anyone get a print out of it when it had some names on it? fish sent me the URL after i paid and i looked at it (saw my name and few others and i deleted the e-mail) i never thought to print it out! did anyone?? Take Care, Rick The list is gone... http://www.nicoflash.de/fish/thrust/thrust.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistah kurtz Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 wayback machine has june 21 2002: here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 ------------------------------------------- REGISTERED PILOTS: ------------------------------------------- Res. pilot no. name status A1 cart no. 50 (ren.dhark) payed A2 cart no. 25 (Tempest) payed A3 cart no. 11 (Marco) payed A4 cart no. 12 (Albert & Al) payed A5 cart no. 13 (rick) payed A6 cart no. 14 (JimC) payed A7 cart no. 15 (Pitfall Harry) payed A8 cart no. 31 (Ubersaurus) reserved A9 cart no. 16 (DanCage) reserved B1 cart no. 17 (JoelP) payed B2 cart no. 18 (ianoid) payed B3 cart no. 30 (JoanReilly) payed B4 cart no. 19 (Burgel) reserved B5 cart no. 21 (AtariKari) payed B6 cart no. 22 (godzilla) payed B7 cart no. 20 (Eric) payed B8 cart no. 23 (JerryG) payed B9 cart no. 35 (Waggie the CPA) reserved C1 cart no. 24 (Marty) reserved C2 cart no. 40 (MattyXB) payed C3 cart no. 26 (Philflound) payed C4 cart no. 27 (BradVargovick) payed C5 cart no. 28 (davidH) reserved C6 cart no. 45 (Tizok) reserved C7 cart no. 29* (black dog) reserved C8 cart no. 32 (BloatedMonkey) payed C9 cart no. 49 (THEJPC) payed D1 cart no. 33 (ChuckGill) payed D2 cart no. 34 (JoeGrand) payed D3 cart no. 36 (moycon) reserved D4 cart no. 44 (Lee Krueger) payed D5 cart no. 37 (RandyJones) payed D6 cart no. 46 (AtariPitbull) paxed D7 cart no. 38* (KevinStaszkow) payed D8 cart no. 39 (BrianPrescot) reserved D9 cart no. 41 (Mao) payed E1 cart no. 42 (el4a4) reserved E2 cart no. 43 (Andrew) reserved E3 cart no. 47 (Gamereset) reserved E4 cart no. 48 (Rolenta) payed E5 cart r01 (CarlHoward) payed E6 cart r02 (JL) payed E7 cart r03 (MikeKnowles) reserved E8 cart r04 (Sandy) reserved (contest?) E9 cart r05 (RussPerry) payed fight! F1 cart r06 (James) reserved F2 cart r07 (Stephen Colbert) reserved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 wayback machine has june 21 2002: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020621162505/http://www.nicoflash.de/fish/thrust/thrust.html">here</a> Great! I forgot all about that trippy device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 wayback machine has june 21 2002: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020621162505/http://www.nicoflash.de/fish/thrust/thrust.html">here</a> good work mistah kurtz!! he shoot he scores!! thomas, i knew someone would be able to find it!! Take care, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 wayback machine has june 21 2002: Cool! Thanks! I'll join that list with my private list and post the results here. Maybe you can help me to fill so gaps then. I had searched myself there, but I couldnt find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Atari_Warlord Posted March 11, 2003 Share Posted March 11, 2003 Yes, I thought I had # 35, but I couldn't remember. It says reserved, but I do have the Paypal information that shows payment was sent on May 23 for the airmail option. A total of $70.00 to Nicolas Neugebauer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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