+save2600 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Just landed a copy of this after all this time and am floored by how well the game plays. Graphics are just about NES quality and you can play as Ralph too (unlike the NES version). I've always been a fan of the original arcade game and World Tour to a lesser extent. Sound is pretty darn good considering, but it's the gameplay that really shines here. You don't often here about this game in 7800 circles. Is that because it's rather rare, people don't care for the game or what? I wish Activision had made more titles for this system back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Just landed a copy of this after all this time and am floored by how well the game plays. Graphics are just about NES quality and you can play as Ralph too (unlike the NES version). I've always been a fan of the original arcade game and World Tour to a lesser extent. Sound is pretty darn good considering, but it's the gameplay that really shines here. You don't often here about this game in 7800 circles. Is that because it's rather rare, people don't care for the game or what? I wish Activision had made more titles for this system back in the day. Wow - glad you like. I actually found it disappointing. Thought the monsters looked like muppet babies, the buildings were needlessly simple in detail and the sound cut in and out. As far as arcade games went, I thought COMMANDO was to epitome of good conversion on the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 As far as arcade games went, I thought COMMANDO was to epitome of good conversion on the 7800. Yeah, would like to get that one next actually. I remember playing a lot of Commando on the NES though back in the day. Have Ikari Warriors and it seems slow & tedious to me, although I do think it's a great conversion and definitely one of the better 7800 arcade-type conversions. Is Commando a little more "fun" than Ikari would you say? At least Ikari features 2-player simultaneous play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseboy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 As far as arcade games went, I thought COMMANDO was to epitome of good conversion on the 7800. Yeah, would like to get that one next actually. I remember playing a lot of Commando on the NES though back in the day. Have Ikari Warriors and it seems slow & tedious to me, although I do think it's a great conversion and definitely one of the better 7800 arcade-type conversions. Is Commando a little more "fun" than Ikari would you say? At least Ikari features 2-player simultaneous play... Ikari Warriors was never ported well to any console. If you have ever played the arcade game with the proper controls anything else is just too much like a Commando clone. If someone could hack Ikari to use a rotary contoller/spinner that would be fantastic. The Sears Video Arcade II controllers would work great, but I am not sure if the paddle and joystick can be used simultaneously. A man can dream though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ikari Warriors was never ported well to any console. If you have ever played the arcade game with the proper controls anything else is just too much like a Commando clone. If someone could hack Ikari to use a rotary contoller/spinner that would be fantastic. The Sears Video Arcade II controllers would work great, but I am not sure if the paddle and joystick can be used simultaneously. A man can dream though. Oh yes, I know what you mean - all things considered though, I think the ports are okay. Yeah, the rotary knob with the guys arm swinging about ala Tron MCP style would greatly enhance the home versions. Considering what they had to work with... though I do have one complaint about firing on those games: I believe your man should have the option of standing still and firing in all 8 directions. Most ports of Robotron and especially the Jaguar's version of Total Carnage suffer because of that one simple gameplay aspect that should have been an option at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I bought it from Sears when it came out along with double dragon. My mother apparently wasn't a fan (shock just last year by the people eating thing) I know it was returned to the store for some reason, why i can't recall. I may have wanted another game (and Sears had that customer satisfaction policy back in the day... making it a good 'rental' store) AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseboy Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Ikari Warriors was never ported well to any console. If you have ever played the arcade game with the proper controls anything else is just too much like a Commando clone. If someone could hack Ikari to use a rotary contoller/spinner that would be fantastic. The Sears Video Arcade II controllers would work great, but I am not sure if the paddle and joystick can be used simultaneously. A man can dream though. Oh yes, I know what you mean - all things considered though, I think the ports are okay. Yeah, the rotary knob with the guys arm swinging about ala Tron MCP style would greatly enhance the home versions. Considering what they had to work with... though I do have one complaint about firing on those games: I believe your man should have the option of standing still and firing in all 8 directions. Most ports of Robotron and especially the Jaguar's version of Total Carnage suffer because of that one simple gameplay aspect that should have been an option at least. 7800 Robotron is dual joystick compatible. I believe Total Carnage on the Jag has some similar control option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) 7800 Robotron is dual joystick compatible. I believe Total Carnage on the Jag has some similar control option. Yeah and that helps, but guess I'm just talking about a single stick option built into the programming of the game. You know, like having the option to run while firing or not. But that 2 joystick scenario... too bad 2600 Crazy Climber wasn't designed to accommodate that for those of us with the dual joystick holder Besides Spy Hunter and Riddle of the Sphinx, what else between 2600/Jag/A8 supports 2 joys? Battlezone would be nice that way too... Edited November 30, 2009 by save2600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) I think Rampage for the 7800 is a pretty decent effort for the console but its by no stretch a better port than the NES version. I'm waiting on a copy for the Tandy Color Computer 3 which is pretty decent and I believe allows 3 players at a time (2 joystick, one on the keyboard). If only it would arrive. I'm having problems getting any communication from the owners of the cloud 9 website. Edited November 30, 2009 by AtariLeaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think Rampage for the 7800 is a pretty decent effort for the console but its by no stretch a better port than the NES version. I'm waiting on a copy for the Tandy Color Computer 3 which is pretty decent and I believe allows 3 players at a time (2 joystick, one on the keyboard). If only it would arrive. I'm having problems getting any communication from the owners of the cloud 9 website. The Tandy one is awesome! I wish I still had it to give you. Graphics are great too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I think Rampage for the 7800 is a pretty decent effort for the console but its by no stretch a better port than the NES version. I'm waiting on a copy for the Tandy Color Computer 3 which is pretty decent and I believe allows 3 players at a time (2 joystick, one on the keyboard). If only it would arrive. I'm having problems getting any communication from the owners of the cloud 9 website. The Tandy one is awesome! I wish I still had it to give you. Graphics are great too! Hi Drac. Yea I hope my Cloud 9 problems are ironed out. I got an email that its FINALLY been shipped. Paid Oct. 26th. There's a Rampage, Arkanoid, Clowns and Balloons, and a spare coco 3 keyboard. There are a few other coco 3 games I'm on the lookout for like Mindroll, Rad Warrior, Sokoban, Predator, Robocop, and Tetris Sorry to highjack the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzillajoe Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 7800 Robotron is dual joystick compatible. I believe Total Carnage on the Jag has some similar control option. Yeah and that helps, but guess I'm just talking about a single stick option built into the programming of the game. You know, like having the option to run while firing or not. But that 2 joystick scenario... too bad 2600 Crazy Climber wasn't designed to accommodate that for those of us with the dual joystick holder Besides Spy Hunter and Riddle of the Sphinx, what else between 2600/Jag/A8 supports 2 joys? Battlezone would be nice that way too... There is a Battlezone hack fow two sticks Raiders of the Lost Ark uses 2 sticks. Also Stargate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 There is a Battlezone hack fow two sticks Raiders of the Lost Ark uses 2 sticks. Also Stargate Oh yeah... forgot about the other two, but a Battlezone hack? Awesome! Will have to try that out on the ol' Harmony Cart sometime soon Thanks Godzilla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 This game has that "Atari" feel, and I don't really mean that as a compliment. Limited animation, garish colors, simplistic artwork... it's every bit as much a reflection of the flaws of its host system as the NES version of Rampage. Its game had characters squeezed inside tiny sprite boxes, monotonous tiling, and a dark, dreary color palette. I hate to sound like a Master System fan here, because I'm definitely not, but I think that version of Rampage is hands down the best of the three. Big, meaty sprites! Colorful artwork! Meticulous detail! It's worlds apart from the other ports, and shockingly close to the arcade game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Ikari Warriors and it seems slow & tedious to me, although I do think it's a great conversion and definitely one of the better 7800 arcade-type conversions. Is Commando a little more "fun" than Ikari would you say? At least Ikari features 2-player simultaneous play... Commando is far easier and more fun to play than Ikari Warriors. Although I do like Ikari Warriors on the 7800 and prefer it over the NES version. Commando can hardly be compared to Ikari IMO. The controls are nice, the animation is smooth, the sound is good, etc. etc. It's always been one of my favorite games for the 7800 and one I was proud to show to friends. I never even knew about the POW camps until a few days ago, so finding out about those made it like a whole new game to me. As for Rampage, I was very disapointed in both the 7800 and 2600 versions. I used to drool, (not literally), over this game when I was a kid looking at pictures of it in the Sears catalog. I wasn't able to find a copy for either system until the mid 90's. I felt there was no excuse for the simplistic buildings and round teddy bear characters that all look nearly identical. This game is one of the reasons I've always wanted to someday learn to program for the 7800. I'd like to make a better looking version. Hopefully someone will decide to do this because I may never get around to developing the skills. All that said, the gameplay is fine and I do prefer it over the NES version. It has all the major features, but the Master System version is FAR superior to any other home version I've played. Rampage on the Lynx is my overall farorite (even over the arcade), but I'm not counting that as a home system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 This game has that "Atari" feel, and I don't really mean that as a compliment. Limited animation, garish colors, simplistic artwork... it's every bit as much a reflection of the flaws of its host system as the NES version of Rampage. Its game had characters squeezed inside tiny sprite boxes, monotonous tiling, and a dark, dreary color palette. I hate to sound like a Master System fan here, because I'm definitely not, but I think that version of Rampage is hands down the best of the three. Big, meaty sprites! Colorful artwork! Meticulous detail! It's worlds apart from the other ports, and shockingly close to the arcade game. Yes, very true. I just started collecting for the SMS recently and Rampage, being one of my favorite arcade games, was tops on my list and boy I wasn't disappointed. Excellent port, probably the best. When I get my coco 3 version I'm going to compare the sms, nes, and coco 3 ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I really like Rampage for the 7800 also. My only complaint is that there is no end to the game. I played it for like 7 hours one time not knowing any better questing to complete the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 You know Shawn, if it lasts for than four hours you are supposed to contact your physician. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 You know Shawn, if it lasts for than four hours you are supposed to contact your physician. AX Physician? If it lasts more than 4 hours, I am calling all of my friends and bragging Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underball Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Rampriapism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 If only life were like Rampage. You could just insert a coin to make it bigger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 This game has that "Atari" feel, and I don't really mean that as a compliment. Limited animation, garish colors, simplistic artwork... it's every bit as much a reflection of the flaws of its host system as the NES version of Rampage. This would suggest that the 7800 Rampage couldn't be substantially improved upon. To me, this smacks of a "rushed effort" done by a no-name software house on a tight budget. I agree that the SMS (and CoCo3) versions are awesome. I disagree that the NES or 7800 versions were the best they could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I believe Total Carnage on the Jag has some similar control option. Unfortunately not, you have the option of using the keypad or the extra pro controller buttons (only three way firing). It's a shame that two pad control didn't make it in, as its probably the best port of the game ever made for home systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8th lutz Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Rampage for the Atari 7800 was a blast to play for me when I was younger with my friends in the 1990 to 1991 time frame. Rampage was a fun game to me back than as I didn't own a sms or a nes at the time. The 7800 version of Rampage isn't as bad as the Nes version was, but I felt the Sms version is the best version I ever played since I bought it 10 years ago for the Sms. Edited December 2, 2009 by 8th lutz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh, I don't think that the 7800 or NES versions were as good as they could have been. They do nevertheless demonstrate the shortcomings of both systems, while the Master System version plays to that system's strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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