jeremysart Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well I couldn't find it on eBuy, Amazon, or Game Gavel, and its not listed at all on the AA 5200 rarity list But there is a video of it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9-VHtAqMJs among many others. Is this game rare to find or something? And why is it not listed here http://www.atariage.com/software_list.html?SystemID=5200 at all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohoki Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well I couldn't find it on eBuy, Amazon, or Game Gavel, and its not listed at all on the AA 5200 rarity list But there is a video of it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9-VHtAqMJs among many others. Is this game rare to find or something? And why is it not listed here http://www.atariage.com/software_list.html?SystemID=5200 at all?? its a xe conversion someone did like spy hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Kenfused did the Donkey Kong conversion. You can find the rom image here in the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Back in the day, Atari had exclusive rights to make Donkey Kong for computers, while Coleco had it for consoles. Thus, no Donkey Kong for the 5200 from Atari. But the one they made for the 8-bit is fantastic (arguably the best DK port of the classic era). Kenfused ported that over to the 5200. Edited December 11, 2009 by Ransom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremysart Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 I see, thanks for the bit of info. Guess I'll have to pick up a multi-cart from Atarimax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacfan97 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Well I couldn't find it on eBuy, Amazon, or Game Gavel, and its not listed at all on the AA 5200 rarity list But there is a video of it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9-VHtAqMJs among many others. Is this game rare to find or something? And why is it not listed here http://www.atariage.com/software_list.html?SystemID=5200 at all?? If you want 5200 Donkey Kong, click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 There is probably an answer to this somewhere on here but it is early and I'm too lazy right now to look. Is there a post or a man file somewhere that explains how to port games from ROM or disk image or whatever form to a cart? I imagine there is some expensive hardware involved to "write" to the cart, and probably some programing to translate controls from the computer input to a 5200 controller layout. Maybe some legal wrangling are involved that makes distributing the knowledge uncool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 There is probably an answer to this somewhere on here but it is early and I'm too lazy right now to look. Is there a post or a man file somewhere that explains how to port games from ROM or disk image or whatever form to a cart? I imagine there is some expensive hardware involved to "write" to the cart, and probably some programing to translate controls from the computer input to a 5200 controller layout. Maybe some legal wrangling are involved that makes distributing the knowledge uncool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 There is probably an answer to this somewhere on here but it is early and I'm too lazy right now to look. Is there a post or a man file somewhere that explains how to port games from ROM or disk image or whatever form to a cart? I imagine there is some expensive hardware involved to "write" to the cart, and probably some programing to translate controls from the computer input to a 5200 controller layout. Maybe some legal wrangling are involved that makes distributing the knowledge uncool? I'd have expected more decorum from someone of your stature on this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think the gist was that if you had the ability to use that info, you probably wouldn't have asked the question in the first place. Every game is different. Disassembly Reverse-engineer Edit to conform to the 5200's memory usage and control method Assemble to binary file Burn to Eprom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyman Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think the gist was that if you had the ability to use that info, you probably wouldn't have asked the question in the first place. Every game is different. Disassembly Reverse-engineer Edit to conform to the 5200's memory usage and control method Assemble to binary file Burn to Eprom The gift of judging ones abilities re: Intelligence through a post on a forum must be discouraged. Its that kind of treatment that curbs anyone's desire to learn. I'm glad that this arbitrary judgment is not prevalent in society or we'd all still be reading Dick and Jane books. Thank you for the high level description, I'm regretful that I ever posted anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I'm regretful that I ever posted anything. Don't listen to Shawn. He's got issues like you wouldn't believe. Tempest 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyman Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I'm regretful that I ever posted anything. Don't listen to Shawn. He's got issues like you wouldn't believe. Tempest If anyone else is interested here is some good info: http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/consoles/5200/conv_to_5200.html And yes I understood it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I'm regretful that I ever posted anything. Don't listen to Shawn. He's got issues like you wouldn't believe. Tempest And your some kind of Saint? Get over yourself pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Guys, be nice. Doyman's question was legitimate--we're not all born with the knowledge on how to create ports of games from the 8-bit computers to the 5200. There's nothing wrong with asking the question. If you don't want to answer it, I'd appreciate your simply moving on to the next thread instead of responding with a derisive post. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 CPU's really gonna be firing up the PPV stuff these days it seems! It's cool to see that such a great port was done. I'm surprised porting from 800 to 5200 isn't much easier than other types of ports because the 5200 is, essentially, an 800 computer, right? Wouldn't that make porting a LOT easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 The most common conversion in the 80s was hackers (especially Glenn, The 5200 Man) porting games from the 5200 to the computer. The 5200 had some exclusive titles to distinguish it from the computer line, although I beleive Atari themselves released a few on the computers later on. There were also some games that had different revisions through the years, from memory Dig Dug, Mario Bros and Centipede. The biggest hurdle for porting games from the computer is that the 5200 only has 16K RAM. Not really a problem for most of the older carts but the later ones often needed 40K RAM or more. The secondary hurdles, and somewhat big in themselves are that the method of reading the controllers is totally different across both systems and that the 5200 has Pokey and GTIA mapped to different locations in memory. That said, many later cartridge games in fact were kinda kludgy and essentially were just a case of putting games that were originally disk releases onto ROM and then just running the game by copying the relevant parts to RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 CPU's really gonna be firing up the PPV stuff these days it seems! I'm already booked to fight this Saturday in Quebec so his other PPV was just false advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 It's okay, Gorf chickened out anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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