candle Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I've managed to buy half of atari falcon (half, because its just motherboard with bottom of case and psu) as "unchecked" ofcourse it doesn't work so far i've managed to check combo ic for presence of various clocks outputs (and they are present), videl for any activity (only pixel clock is present), and cpu reset seeems to work properly, bus control signals (active low) are high (BERR- and HALT-) so it should run, but it doesnt - there is NO activity on data or address bus on CPU i've managed to get replacement CPU and get it replaced - no change whatsoever, so i'm back in the fog again if anyone could shed some light on bus arbitration of mc68030 or falcon repairs in general (ie what to check next) it would be greatly apreciated i've always wanted to have this computer, and it was out ouf my range for this one i've paid quite a lot, but still bearable money, and really want to get it up and running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) A few pointers : - reseat socketed chips by pressing firmly on them - check that the RAM board is inserted firmly on connectors J6 and J17 (if it uses a SIMM RAM module, check that it is proprerly inserted too) - if you don't have any accelerator board installed, a jumper should be connected between pins 20 and 22 on connector J20 (expansion connector) - check that the solder points U46 and U47 are set correctly : You can find the Falcon schematics, service guide and the developer documentation (which includes useful info on the hardware) here : http://dev-docs.atar...rch.php?find=_5. Good luck ! Edited December 2, 2010 by Zerosquare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JingleJoe Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I can't be the only one who saw this thread and visualized captain falcon repairing things; Falcon Solder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simbo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) youll probably find the dma ic is dead this is the usual one that goes if you connect a monitor to it it mostly will power on the monitor but it will come up as out of range next check the DE signal to the videl if you have a pulses on the DE pin then check the bus grant chain youl see that the combel has granted the bus to the dma but the dma does nothing you can also look with a scope at the mad bus {memory board pins} what i did long ago was to make up a board that plugs into the expansion slot it uses leds to monitor the address and data bus usualy if the dma is being granted the bus the machines address bus will run to 1111 1111 1111 1000 or less and the address strobe will not run past a few cycles ie the dma is granted the bus but is unable to respond to FC 0,1,2 youll notice they toggle as far a 110 {ie fc 0 is the only one that moves} last two falcons i did that were doa had busted dma and i used that method to varify this before i ordered it dont use a shotgun approch to repair take your time and make some signals charts for boot reset and etc if you have a test cart this is handy and will tell you over the serial port mostly what the issue is if the videl has a problem you can also notice that the yellow drive access led will flicker around in time to the address strobe this is the first test i use to make the board for led tests i use simple project board {vero but not strip board dot board} and lots of 2ma led's {use low current types} each all leds are common and the main 1k resitor is a 1watt type on ground side of the led bank its handy as the port gives other usefull signals for diagnosis and one day ill make a project board for it on ss pcb you need about 50 for signals and address and 16 for data bus + some for data signals ive found in the past photos are handy can you take some macro photos of three areas on the pcb left middle right nice ones in daylight {sun if we ever see it again} ill help you out for sure if you slow down dont replace any more ic's and take your time Edited January 8, 2011 by simbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 thanks! this should keep me going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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