HSC7 Game 20: Pole Position

[atariksi]

Okay, our team name is the: WinningThePooh, our motto is "Slow down before the black sign."

 

Here's my scores so far for races C and E.

[Marius]

Here is my score for Race D and F.

 

Notice the difference in COLOR between Atari 65XE (Race F) and Atari 800XL (Race D) ... !!!

 

The 65XE is in our Living Room (yes my Wife loves the Atari too... she's a keeper *SMILE*) and I played it this morning. Tonight I played Race D on the 800XL in my Hobby Room. I like the screenoutput of the 800XL! It is so much better!

 

Both PAL machines ofcourse.

 

 

Poleposition-8lapATGP.jpg = Race F

 

 

 

poleposition-4lapNAMCO.jpg = Race D

 

 

 

greetz Marius.

[Divya16]

 

Cool, i'll take races E and G. I'll try my best not to let my team down.

I did trial runs on E and F/G best I got was 40-50k on each. I did a run of A & B and got nearly perfect scores as best I can tell.

 

Okay, Roadrunner you have E & G. I'll do B,C and F. Zylon do A and D (easy to remember AD). Here's what I got for B and D but I think you can beat D so I'm giving you D.

[Divya16]

 

Cool, i'll take races E and G. I'll try my best not to let my team down.

I did trial runs on E and F/G best I got was 40-50k on each. I did a run of A & B and got nearly perfect scores as best I can tell.

 

Okay, Roadrunner you have E & G. I'll do B,C and F. Zylon do A and D (easy to remember AD). Here's what I got for B and D but I think you can beat D so I'm giving you D.

 

Never mind that B. It's supposed to be 2 laps. I did 4. So I have to redo race B.

[Divya16]

Okay, Zylon let me know which of B & D you can beat.

 

Here's my Race B score.

[roadrunner]

Race G DataSoft 500 PAL 76,300

Edited December 12, 2010 by roadrunner

[littleman jack]

Attention There and Backsters, aka TheRealBountyBob and Sloopy,

 

you two should take the two hardest because I think you'll do better than I will.

 

Let me know what you'll take, and I'll take what's left. I'll get going tonight and tomorrow,

 

and then post the races I am doing for the competition, and then focus on those.

[sloopy]

Attention There and Backsters, aka TheRealBountyBob and Sloopy,

 

you two should take the two hardest because I think you'll do better than I will.

 

Let me know what you'll take, and I'll take what's left. I'll get going tonight and tomorrow,

 

and then post the races I am doing for the competition, and then focus on those.

 

hey, i already said that :')

 

i did a test run and got almost 30k on race A

 

sloopy.

[zylon]

Okay, Zylon let me know which of B & D you can beat.

 

Here's my Race B score.

I'll check on my computer at home in the morning. I know I had around 28k on A can't remember B offhand.

[+therealbountybob]

Attention There and Backsters, aka TheRealBountyBob and Sloopy,

 

you two should take the two hardest because I think you'll do better than I will.

 

Let me know what you'll take, and I'll take what's left. I'll get going tonight and tomorrow,

 

and then post the races I am doing for the competition, and then focus on those.

 

hey, i already said that :')

 

i did a test run and got almost 30k on race A

 

sloopy.

How about

trbb D, F

sloop B, C, G

lj A, E (or if you can't complete E swap with D or C)

[Divya16]

Okay, Zylon let me know which of B & D you can beat.

 

Here's my Race B score.

I'll check on my computer at home in the morning. I know I had around 28k on A can't remember B offhand.

 

Okay.

 

Meanwhile, I am improving on race F:

[zylon]

Here's my A, B & D

[Divya16]

Here's my A, B & D

 

Not bad. I think I will top that B score so your A and D. Although, try race F and see if you can beat my score there and I'll upgrade you from D to F.

[Marius]

Is the score conversion still -500 points / lap (PAL vs. NTSC)? I might play the games again on Emulator in NTSC modus. I have this Stelladaptor, so I could play with the same joystick, and I guess that is almost the same.

 

I have to say: I prefer playing this on real equipment... it is much more fun. To be honest I 'hate' the emulator a bit... but... I have made really high scores, and I want to feel the difference between NTSC and PAL, to be sure my score is also high on NTSC mode.

 

So tell me: do i stay on real thing, or is it better to play on NTSC mode?

 

And is the conversion still - 500 points/lap ... on each race? Or only the harder ones?

 

Thanks

Marius

[Divya16]

Here's my A, B & D

 

Not bad. I think I will top that B score so your A and D. Although, try race F and see if you can beat my score there and I'll upgrade you from D to F.

 

Okay, here's my race B score zylon so definitely try F otherwise you'll be A and D.

[roadrunner]

Race E Namco Speedway PAL 88,400

and i did better at race G DataSoft 500 PAL 88,050

 

I was doing good until i got stuck behind a big pack of cars near the end of lap 7.

Edited December 12, 2010 by roadrunner

[Marius]

@The Real Bounty Bob

 

From now on I play on NTSC

 

I think it is more fair to play all on NTSC modus. Not only the timer is different on NTSC. The whole game is harder in NTSC. So it is not fair to compete with different PAL<>NTSC.

 

Here is my result for RACE B - NTSC

 

2 laps Malibu. 38900 points.

[Divya16]

Race E Namco Speedway NTSC 88,400

and i did better at race G DataSoft 500 NTSC 88,050

I was doing good until i got stuck behind a big pack of cars near the end of lap 7.

 

Try with PAL as well. I just did PAL with Atari Grand Prix and finished the race (race F).

 

Remember, "it doesn't matter if it's PAL or NTSC, as long as you win the race." PAL is much easier and it's worth taking the 500/lap hit.

[+therealbountybob]

@The Real Bounty Bob

 

From now on I play on NTSC

 

I think it is more fair to play all on NTSC modus. Not only the timer is different on NTSC. The whole game is harder in NTSC. So it is not fair to compete with different PAL<>NTSC.

 

Here is my result for RACE B - NTSC

 

2 laps Malibu. 38900 points.

Don't let the scoring factor influence your choice, I'd usually prefer the real atari hardware over emulation. I'm sticking to my XE, it's a shame the PAL game works out much easier(?) for years I thought this game was too easy but never realised it was down to the PAL/NTSC difference, maybe one day we will have a patched version (yes Fandal i'm looking at you ) It's only for fun (did I really say that?!) but i'll look at the scoring adjustments when we have some more results to compare. If there is a maximum score for each race in PAL/NTSC we can use factor this in later.

 

For now here's my first go on Race F, I had several crashes

108,250 - 4000 = 104,250

 

First Post has link to current teams (post 67)

[roadrunner]

You know what? I just checked my emulator settings and all this time i've been playing this game on PAL.

 

Just played again on the PAL setting race E Namco speedway and i got 99,350

[Divya16]

@The Real Bounty Bob

 

From now on I play on NTSC

 

I think it is more fair to play all on NTSC modus. Not only the timer is different on NTSC. The whole game is harder in NTSC. So it is not fair to compete with different PAL<>NTSC.

 

Here is my result for RACE B - NTSC

 

2 laps Malibu. 38900 points.

Don't let the scoring factor influence your choice, I'd usually prefer the real atari hardware over emulation. I'm sticking to my XE, it's a shame the PAL game works out much easier(?) for years I thought this game was too easy but never realised it was down to the PAL/NTSC difference, maybe one day we will have a patched version (yes Fandal i'm looking at you ) It's only for fun (did I really say that?!) but i'll look at the scoring adjustments when we have some more results to compare. If there is a maximum score for each race in PAL/NTSC we can use factor this in later.

 

For now here's my first go on Race F, I had several crashes

108,250 - 4000 = 104,250

 

I notice a timing difference. I can get Pole Position with 35 seconds left in PAL and with 30 seconds left in NTSC mode. So that's 5 seconds.

 

How much will you deduct for those in my team who take steroids to win the race?

 

I am getting about 2500 more points in race B with PAL vs. NTSC and that's without crashing.

[Marius]

Race E Namco Speedway NTSC 88,400

and i did better at race G DataSoft 500 NTSC 88,050

I was doing good until i got stuck behind a big pack of cars near the end of lap 7.

 

Try with PAL as well. I just did PAL with Atari Grand Prix and finished the race (race F).

 

Remember, "it doesn't matter if it's PAL or NTSC, as long as you win the race." PAL is much easier and it's worth taking the 500/lap hit.

 

I'd say the PAL final score of the race should be lowered with 20% of the total score. I think that gives a rather 'fair' result (comparing to same race in NTSC)

 

Or not?

 

Greetz

M.

[Marius]

Here are my results (so far) for Race D in NTSC

 

Total score: 60050 points.

[Marius]

@Roadrunner

 

I knew it... I found your colors looked like PAL and not like the GREEN SKY NTSC...

[Marius]

Ok we are having a rather 'unclear' thread now... (due to me too)

 

What we need is a GOOD score conversion. I think Pal - 20% total score is rather 'fair' and comes close.

 

 

A conversion of the game is harder than you think. I think the NTSC version should run slower... (that is easier to realise!) than to fasten up the PAL version, since it is using the Vertical Blank interrupt for timing.

 

But ok.

 

I'm rather confused now. Do I stick to my real hardware (The Real Bounty Bob advised me that) and get only PAL results? Or do I play on Emulator on NTSC setting?

 

I have to admit I was rather 'proud' of my NTSC scores though

 

I think it is the coolest when everyone races in the same 'system' ... so the scores are all comparable.

 

Greetz

M.