rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 How would I go about hooking up 7800 on modern tv with rca jacks in front of the tv? i would rather do that then using the rf cables, That way i don't have to have to keep on switching the wires every time when I am done playing and wanna watch tv. Thanks in advance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Like so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Is it possible I can purchase some type of adapter/converter hookup at radioshack or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 You're talking a device to convert from RF to AV? Do yourself a favor, get an old VCR, plug the RF into the VCR input then the VCR tuner AV output to your TV. It is the cheapest solution with the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 I do hear you saying River Patroller that would work, however, I want to make my system portable as possible, since I have two tvs in the house I really don't want to drag the vcr around everytime when im playing on different tvs or when I want to bring at a friends house or something, anything else, i can buy that is smaller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yeah. They cost $80+. That's why I just did the composite video mod; for the improved picture and for portability's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 wow, 80 $ huh, where can I get that done, and another question would be would the harmony cartridge, work with the mod? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The video mod is pretty easy, or you buy a kit with all part so you don't have to find them yourself. Or if you don't feel you can do the mod, there are people on the board who will do them, and I believe it's cheaper than buying another device, and more portable as you mentioned you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Harmony Cart should absolutely work with the mod, and like evg2000 said, plenty of people here should be willing to mod your 7800 for a fraction of the cost of an RF demodulator, and you wouldn't have to carry around extra hardware. Edited October 15, 2012 by Rex Dart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 so I would have to send out then to have it modded then right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 here is one person that based on people responses does a great job: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/198160-atari-7800-hardware-modding-service/page__hl__%207800%20%20video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 A timely topic. What do you do if there is so much lag, it makes games totally unplayable? Just last night my neighbor invited me over to try out my old games on his new TV. We hooked the Atari up to the VCR RF jack which was connected to the TV via either composite or HDMI (I don't remember). There was about a second's worth of lag. Seriously. I couldn't play anything it was so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I just did the MOD myself. It's not bad, but that was some tight soldering work (for someone who doesn't do it alot). If you're not comfortable with that, it'd be best to send it out.. Mine works great with my CC2 cart, so I'd imagine a Harmony would be fine as well... desiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I do hear you saying River Patroller that would work, however, I want to make my system portable as possible, since I have two tvs in the house I really don't want to drag the vcr around everytime when im playing on different tvs or when I want to bring at a friends house or something, anything else, i can buy that is smaller? Just a tip, our usernames are on the top left of our posts, for example I am not River Patroller I am OldSchoolRetroGamer, just as you arerushguy and not Space Invader. Well, your only option then is an RF DeModulator. Most examples are pricey, this is an external box that does the same thing as the VCR would. There is just no simple way, there is no simple adaptor plug to turn RF into AV because electronic circuitry is required to convert the signal. You can search "RF DeModulator" on Ebay. not sure the Shack would still stock something like that. Personally I think you would still be better off finding two old VCR with working tuners, does not matter if tape mechanism does not work, for the price. Either that or find someone to AV mod your 7800 console so the RCA jacks are built right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) What do you do if there is so much lag, it makes games totally unplayable? Buy a new TV.. Seriously, the MOD doesn't affect the lag at all, that's all about the TV. There was about a second's worth of lag. Seriously. I couldn't play anything it was so bad. A second?? WOW! I'm sure there is some lag on my LCD, but not that I noticed. In fact, I had my best game ever of Xenophobe last night. desiv Edited October 15, 2012 by desiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 A second?? WOW!I'm sure there is some lag on my LCD, but not that I noticed. In fact, I had my best game ever of Xenophobe last night. Yeah, it was seriously that bad. Totally unplayable. The TV was obviously doing a ton of processing to the signal, so we looked around in the menu to find a setting we could change. We didn't find anything, so we finally quit for the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Thanks for the reply and the tips OldSchoolRetroGamer ,I am very new to this forum. I have found it to be a positive experience. Another alternative I was thinking if would it be possible to mod a flashback 2 system for cartridge port and use a harmony cartridge from the port? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 That's also totally possible, but involves more work than modding a 7800 for composite output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushguy Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 What would the prices and the time frame would be for either getting the 7800 modded for composite or the flashback modded with a cartridge port? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando marrin Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 if you plan on modding a 7800 with Longhorn's Chip, there are same things to change, sound and video involved, but when fixed, it gives cristal clear image the easier video mod solution -same Best Electronics uses- is really less sharp but way superior to rf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) A timely topic. What do you do if there is so much lag, it makes games totally unplayable? Just last night my neighbor invited me over to try out my old games on his new TV. We hooked the Atari up to the VCR RF jack which was connected to the TV via either composite or HDMI (I don't remember). There was about a second's worth of lag. Seriously. I couldn't play anything it was so bad. If you experienced lag through the VCR-HDMI, then try hooking the Atari directly to the TV. I found that my DVD recorder was unusable for recording NES videos because there was a HUGE amount of output lag on the DVD player, like almost two seconds. My Happauge USB capture device is even worse. I imagine if your VCR has an HDMI port, it's likely one of those DVD recorder combo units. You need to hook the Atari directly up to the RF port on the TV set to minimize lag. Old-school analog VCRs have no frame buffer thus are lag free, if you need a composite source. Even a busted VCR that destroys tapes will likely work fine as a demodulator. Edited October 19, 2012 by stardust4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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