Competition Pro Joystick Repair - Correct Microswitch?

[+therealbountybob]

One of my (relatively new) Competition Pro Joysticks has a bust microswitch

think I've found some replacements on Ebay - can anyone confirm these are correct - seem to look the same and match the measurements but not sure re specs/voltage etc - supplier has lots for sale so if good I'll order a few.

 

Thanks

[Rybags]

The voltages etc are just the maximums that they can cope - for our usage they're like 5V DC and maybe double-figure milliamps.

 

That says "normally closed" - you want a switch that's "normally open" ie - open circuit and closes when pressed.

[+therealbountybob]

Thanks Rybags, thought it was too good to be true So that would have given me auto right movement

Can't seem to find one to match so will probably I'll look out for another cheap stick for spare parts...

 

Don't suppose anyones got a broken Competition Pro joytick and wants to post me a switch as an early Christmas pressie (I'll pay postage etc) ?

 

[Rybags]

Do the fire buttons use the same switch type? You could swap over with one of them.

[mimo]

I replaced my fire buttons with sanwa parts, if I can find the original switches you can have them

[+bob1200xl]

That looks like a standard microswitch. They are available with a variety of actuators and mostly come with both n/o and n/c contacts. I can't see what kind of actuator you need - do you have a better picture?

 

Bob

[jmetal88]

That's really blurry, so I can't really tell what it's supposed to look like, but I think I had to order a similar switch to put in my RCA Selectavision. Got mine off Digikey, I believe.

[+therealbountybob]

Hmmm...

Thanks Mimo I'll take one or two if you can find them

Now the fire button ones are mounted edge ways in a white casing and they might well be the same, so I'll see if I can get one out without breaking it

Will checkout & see how much on Digikey too [searching for microswitch brings back masses of stuff (11,741 items!) under 'Snap Action, Limit Switches' - not sure what to search for here?]

All my pictures are blurry! (they look like the ones in the ebay link on the 1st post - same connectors and placements) [Text on them "Lema Electronics Switch Co Ltd"]

Edited December 4, 2012 by therealbountybob

[+SoulBuster]

All my pictures are blurry!

 

I use a cheap camera, but it has a closeup function. Some of the photos I took in this thread were taken in this manner.

Edited December 4, 2012 by SoulBuster

[+therealbountybob]

I use a cheap camera, but it has a closeup function. Some of the photos I took in this thread were taken in this manner.

Old camera phone only! - use the beer goggles to bring it into focus

[Rybags]

Cheap digital cams work much better when the lighting level is good.

 

If it's too dim, you usually get the crappy grainy looking images. Even a good camera can perform that badly e.g. if you manually override shutter speed, disable flash etc.

[candle]

 

you can get them here

 

just remove the lever

[jmetal88]

Ah, so you're saying something like this, then?

 

http://www.digikey.c...1266-ND/1829151

Edited December 4, 2012 by jmetal88

[+therealbountybob]

Ah, so you're saying something like this, then?

 

http://www.digikey.c...1266-ND/1829151

 

Looks good

Part info

but their uk page has £12.00 shipping ouch! (free if you spend £50!) I'll wait for Father mimo (unless anyone else is ordering anything and wants to bag me a few?) but in the mean time the fire button switch is the same - are the metal tabs 'quick connect connectors'? can I just pull the metal tabs out (no soldering!)?

Thanks everyone

[Rybags]

Connectors should just slide off the terminals - try and pull the connector rather than by the wire - fine pliers can help there.

[candle]

there is plenty to choose from on ebay, starting with 0.99$ including shipment

[Albert]

there is plenty to choose from on ebay, starting with 0.99$ including shipment

 

Damn, that's cheap. I wonder how long those switches will last!

 

..Al

[candle]

if i would buying any, i would buy honeywell or omron branded ones, a dollar or five - doesn't matter if i don't need a container of them

but even el-cheapo from deep china will serve for quite some time - these are industrial switches, often working where a failure leads towards expensive repair, or life loss

and it's game over then, no insert coin, no another life, and you can't even restart the game

[jmetal88]

Looks good

Part info

but their uk page has £12.00 shipping ouch! (free if you spend £50!) I'll wait for Father mimo (unless anyone else is ordering anything and wants to bag me a few?) but in the mean time the fire button switch is the same - are the metal tabs 'quick connect connectors'? can I just pull the metal tabs out (no soldering!)?

Thanks everyone

 

Oh, I didn't realize their UK shipping was so high. It usually doesn't cost me more than $2 or $3 to get it shipped to me here in the US, as long as I tell them to ship First Class instead of Priority.

[+therealbountybob]

there is plenty to choose from on ebay, starting with 0.99$ including shipment

We have a winner! Wow! Shows you've got to shop around - and then ask here on AtariAge! I've just ordered 7 for ($7) £4.45 GBP delivered. (I'm planning on breaking most of them) they even have both NC and NO connectors, so I'll just wire up the one I want to use.

 

1x Micro High Level Normally Open/Close Switch 28x16mm Qty:7 $6.93 Item price: $0.99

International services - FREE

Economy Int'l Shipping

Est. delivery varies

 

Thanks everyone I'll post when they arrive, the seller had good feedback so fingers crossed

[+therealbountybob]

The microswitches arrived on the 23rd December. Have just made the repair and even with my dodgy soldering the joystick now works fine

 

Thanks again everyone

[SignorSensible]

Hello, I have a problem with my Competition Pro USB Joystick too, can you please help me?

My joystick stopped working properly after one day of use (I read negative reviews about it but wanted to try it anyway). I opened it and cleaned the contacts in the microswitches and joystick worked well after that. But only for a day. The same problem occured soon so I made a search on the itnternet and found this thread.

I would like to buy higher quality microswitches and replace those original ones "Yueqing Zhongma" because this joystick perfectly suits me (and has no lags, other people complain about it a lot). I would like to buy some microswitches as spare ones (ten, maybe twenty ) as well, I remember from the past when using various Quick Shots that microswitches were a big issue.

There are five types of microswitches which I consider to buy:

Omron D3V-16-1C5
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/D3V-16-1C5/SW1481-ND/1789270
http://www.tme.eu/en/details/d3v-16-1c5/push-on-blades-microswitches/omron/#

Omron V-16-1C5
http://www.tme.eu/en/details/v-16-1c5/push-on-blades-microswitches/omron/#

 

Omron V-16-1C24

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/V-16-1C24%28R%29/V-16-1C24%28R%29-ND/1829078

(do not know what that "R" means, does it make any difference?)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OMRON-ELECTRONIC-COMPONENTS-D3V-16-1C24-MICROSWITCH-SPDT-16A-PIN-PLUNGER-/271222269757?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item3f261b673d

ZIPPY VMN-10H-00A0-B-Z

http://www.gme.cz/mikrospinac-zippy-vmn-10h-00a0-b-z-p630-109

I did not find this one on any site in english, only in my language so I am linking at least technical details in english in pdf (582 KB):

http://www.gme.cz/img/cache/doc/630/109/mikrospinac-zippy-vmn-10h-00a0-b-z-datasheet-1.pdf

ZIPPY VM-05S-00D0-Z

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-pcs-of-Official-ZIPPY-Microswitch-For-Push-Button-VM-05S-00D0-Z-Arcade-Machine-Parts/370620633.html

http://www.ph-game.com/?product-1314.html

(just scroll down a bit for English)

 

I read Omron micro switches are pretty good and are used in Sanwa JLF and Zippy ones are used in some arcade sticks too so products from both manufacturers should be very good I suppose.

But I am not a very technical person (have lack of experience in this) and do not know which one to choose. You were talking here about open circuits/closed but I can't find any info about this in the details specifications. Only On-Mom, On-(On), which is probably the same like open-closed, open-open but I am not much sure about it.

Can you please give me an advice which types will work with my Comp Pro USB Joy when I'll swap original Yueqing Zhongma microswitches with them?

 

Thank you very much :-)

Edited November 24, 2013 by SignorSensible

[bandit]

 

Micro switch , I would go to a LOCAL appliance repair or microwave repair. take your switch with you, the standard has NO/NC and if you need room

you can cut off extra terminal. The V-16-1c5 is the standard.

[Bryan]

One thing to remember about switches is the contact material should be selected based on the expected load. A joystick is very small load and should use gold plated contacts. Contacts rated for high amperage will form an insulating oxide layer over time without a contact arc.

 

Here's a quick link, but several switch companies have lengthy white papers on the subject:

 

http://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/switches/basics-of-switches/contact-materials.html

[SignorSensible]

Thank you very much for your replies!

 

Micro switch , I would go to a LOCAL appliance repair or microwave repair. take your switch with you, the standard has NO/NC and if you need room
you can cut off extra terminal. The V-16-1c5 is the standard.

Well, I would ask someone near but I am afraid they would recommend me the type that is same/similar to the one I need and that is all. I think people from gaming forums have much more knowledge and know what they are talking about (yours and Bryan's posts just prove it).

 

So with V-16-1c5 I can't go wrong, they will work and are better than the rest or the Yueqing Zhongma when talking about quality, right?

 

 

One thing to remember about switches is the contact material should be selected based on the expected load. A joystick is very small load and should use gold plated contacts. Contacts rated for high amperage will form an insulating oxide layer over time without a contact arc.

 

Here's a quick link, but several switch companies have lengthy white papers on the subject:

 

http://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/switches/basics-of-switches/contact-materials.html

I checked Omron products and found two types of SPDT plunger microswitchers:

VX-01

http://cz.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Switches/Basic-Snap-Action-Switches/_/N-5g2v?P=1yzvto5&Keyword=vx-01&FS=True

and

D3V-01

http://cz.mouser.com/Electromechanical/Switches/Basic-Snap-Action-Switches/_/N-5g2v?P=1z0z2xmZ1yzvto5&Keyword=d3v-01&FS=True

but there are still too many types of each after filtering (four and five) They vary mostly with Operating Force, Terminating Style.

 

Can you tell me which one is the right one for my use? Language can be altered to EN in the right upper corner.