YOK-dfa Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Hi, Some guy offered me a Super Offroad and Hard Driving for the lynx. The catch is that both are just plain PCBs with an EPROM. I know that Super Offroad was released like this (according to the lynx section here on AA), but i've never heard of such a casing for Hard Driving. Could these just be plain copies (or maybe prototypes)? I'll try to get some pictures of them. Any info would be appreciated. Yok-dfa Ok, here are the pictures i got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_ruck Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Hard Drivin' could be a prototype. Super Offroad could be too...the released version looks like a plain black brick wave soldered to a circuit board. If you get one with, say, a socketed EPROM, well... So let's see some pictures! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 there are a couple guys that are pirates doing these.where did you get them at?super off road may be kosher.hard drivin' i wonder about.if you have a removable eprom with a socket and a real atari board then you have a true atari game proto generally.super off road could possibly be like this too.telegames and atari did share stuff back in the 90s.look for the socket and the atari name on the board with an atari part # too.also one other good like this to look for on stuff like this is a toshiba eprom and a small white label over the eprom window and the game name with a rsa/burn date.all my real stuff has this.look for it!!-chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted February 18, 2003 Author Share Posted February 18, 2003 I'll post the pictures of Super Offroad later. Although that one looks like a genuine Telegames release YOK-dfa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 That looks like it's hand soldered, highly unlikely that it is a prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 that looks like a possibly real atari lynx eprom board.the scan could be a bit better.i can just barely make out "atari eprom board" and a part #.the thing looks like it is in a socket too.the eprom does not look legit though. it is not a toshiba one.the one,two and four meg lynx ones i've seen that are legit have the uv window with the white label over it.the socket board you seem to have looks ok,i think.post a better scan of it for me.-chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 The real EPROM boards are wave soldered, this one is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 yes,generally that could be true.but eprom proto boards/socket boards were scarce for lynx at atari generally.even the developers could not get these real easy.these were generally regulated in very limited numbers. as i remember,the developers had to pay $7.00 bucks each for eprom boards from atari and they were only allowed to have two or three of them by jack t.also some stuff was hand soldered and handmade at certain times for folks by john there.he was their hardware man/man friday when stuff was to be made up.he did a lot of jag work like this there.some lynx stuff too possibly.most of us may know who i mean without saying his last name here. i'll agree that most of the true eprom stuff was wave/professionally solder- ed up this way.a few john could've done up by hand too for jag or lynx.my info comes from a pretty credible source that knew the inner workings at the former atari of sunnyvale.i'm not saying you're wrong either.-chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Hehe, if that is the case, he has bad soldering skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 not all are great solderers or welders.you do the best you can.besides it was usually internal stuff few others usually never saw outside atari.only at the ces shows in the telegames,beyond games or atari booth-or in their suite across the street at the sces in chicago to demo stuff.r&d stuff is not always done in a professional way in the beginning.full production games see this.not alphas and betas.just gammas.it can vary though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayreon Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 Thats not an EPROM, maybe an EAPROM or PROM ( i never worked with those, so i can't say) But from here, the packaging looks like a normal ROM. Can't read the type number otherwise i would have looked it up to make sure what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted June 5, 2003 Author Share Posted June 5, 2003 I took some time, but i finally got both Lynx games so now i can give some more info about the Hard Drivin' on Eprom. Maybe you guys can give me some more information of the origin of that one. I compared it with a normal Hard Drivin' but couldn't find any apparent differences. It looks the same. Anyway, the writing on the PCB says: (Atari logo) Eprom Cart. C103846 rev. 4. The socketed chip reads SST PH29ee010 150-3CF 952804-E Anyone has any idea what this could be? Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Hi! Anyway, the writing on the PCB says: (Atari logo) Eprom Cart. C103846 rev. 4. The socketed chip reads SST PH29ee010 150-3CF 952804-E 29ee010: It's an electrically erasable chip (kind of FLASH-ROM): It has 128 KB and can be written to using 128 byte-sectors. I think FLASH-chips of this "size" do have the same pinout as their EPROM-relatives and can therefore be used on the same PCBs. Regards Matthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 The socketed chip reads SST PH29ee010 150-3CF 952804-E This is an 128Kb EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory) I don't think these were common when Atari still supported the Lynx. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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