NinSEGA Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I recently got brand new/sealed copies of Cannon Fodder and Flashback in the mail from MyAtari (aka B&C Computervisions), and I noticed that they didn't have "ATARI" embedded in the plastic of the backsides of the carts. They also weren't sealed in that special baggie with a bunch of warning crap like the copy of Bubsy that I also got from B&C, but that game actually had the Atari logo pressed into the backside and was also published by Atari. So is it safe for me to assume that only the Atari-published games got that treatment and I'm not getting some funky reprints from B&C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Havoc 2049 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 For the most part, although Syndicate was a 3rd party game and has the Atari logo on the cart. All the 3rd party games have the Atari Jaguar hologram sticker on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 For the most part, although Syndicate was a 3rd party game and has the Atari logo on the cart. All the 3rd party games have the Atari Jaguar hologram sticker on them. Except for the Telegames and Carl Forhan releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Havoc 2049 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Except for the Telegames and Carl Forhan releases. Well those and every other release since early 1996, were all released after Atari Corp went out of business. While Atari was still around, even Telegames releases had the Atari "seal of quality" hologram sticker, along with a proper cart label and instructions. Sensible Soccer was the only Telegames release pre-1996. Edited November 26, 2013 by Major Havoc 2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Towers II doesn't have the hologram sticker but it does have Atatri's logo on the back of the box- I thought that they weren't supposed mention Atari at all because it was part of the "worldwide license" agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Well those and every other release since early 1996, were all released after Atari Corp went out of business. While Atari was still around, even Telegames releases had the Atari "seal of quality" hologram sticker, along with a proper cart label and instructions. Sensible Soccer was the only Telegames release pre-1996. I think Brutal Sports Football was released by Telegames the same time as Sensible Soccer. IIRC BSF is Telegames published. I don't own it anymore to look and see. Edited November 26, 2013 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) Towers II doesn't have the hologram sticker but it does have Atatri's logo on the back of the box- I thought that they weren't supposed mention Atari at all because it was part of the "worldwide license" agreement? The "World wide license" agreement was specifically contingent on the Atari name and logo appearing on the boxes, so Atari could claim to be a relevant company while doing the reverse merger with that "J" something or other HDD company. Basically the license was that Telegames was publishing for Atari so Atari could keep compliant to conditions of the reverse merger. You may be thinking of the public domain release of the JAGUAR system and name when Hasbro owned Atari. That is contingent upon no use of the Atari name or Fuji, only Jaguar and 64-bit logo can be used. Telegames releases are the last official releases by Atari, technically, by-the-law. and a lack of the Jaguar hologram sticker is also indicative since it was meant for only 3rd party releases, including the one or two games Telegames released before Atari licensed the remaining 6 titles to them. Edited November 26, 2013 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 So wait, then how did the Songbird Productions games also have "worldwide license", but no Atari logos? Is it because those games were originally in development for the Jaguar, but the original publishers ceased development/production? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) So wait, then how did the Songbird Productions games also have "worldwide license", but no Atari logos? Is it because those games were originally in development for the Jaguar, but the original publishers ceased development/production? Songbird started long after, when the Jag was officially dead, no more publishing by anyone (except for the then unreleased Battlesphere, which was ground zero for the Jag's PD release) and got the rights and/or licensing to publish his games directly from the developer/copyright holders. Most would have been third party publications too, even if Atari had survived. The only ones that would have been Atari published are Skyhammer and the Phase Zero beta demo. These titles were never Atari owned. Songbird titles don't have the Atari name or logo on them, only the now public domain Jaguar name and logo/icons. Edited November 27, 2013 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfman Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know why there are diffrent colour carts? By this I mean all but 2 of my carts are the same colour grey as the Jaguar base unit but Raiden and Trevor Mc are pretty much jet black? Just wanted to know why Edited February 8, 2014 by Gulfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinSEGA Posted February 8, 2014 Author Share Posted February 8, 2014 Does anyone know why there are diffrent colour carts? By this I mean all but 2 of my carts are the same colour grey as the Jaguar base unit but Raiden and Trevor Mc are pretty much jet black? Just wanted to know why Weren't those launch titles? Probably different plastic/manufacturer/who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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