blakespot Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I've got Atari STs and Amiga's in my past and in my computer room, but I've been more of an Amiga guy. I'm loving the Falcon scenedemo releases though. I kinda want one. How hard is it to find a Falcon and how much do they usually go for? I see none on eBay right now. Thanks. My 520ST: http://www.bytecellar.com/2007/06/17/my_atari_520st/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I bought mine 20 years ago for $600 and they'll still fetch that or more these days. You can usually see a couple each month on ebay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Yep, $500ish. I have a Falcon but I think you'll be just as happy with an Amiga. Of course, a mega ste is nice as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I got my first one on Ebay for $400 a few years ago. Got a second one in a bundle for $1000 but it had a lot of rare things, including a LCD monitor and EtherNec networking card (as well as joysticks, Jaguar controller, etc. etc. etc.) so I felt that was an exceptionally good deal. Try doing a search on Ebay for "sold listings" with Atari Falcon 030 and you might get a better idea. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=Atari%20Falcon%20030&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakespot Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Well, I have 3 Amigas. 1 520ST 4MB. Falcon would be nice. Can the 16-bit bus be addressed with an accelerator? Surely not cheaply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakespot Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Is there a PAL and NTSC ver? Like 520 can NTSC do PAL fine? I'm stateside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Well, I have 3 Amigas. 1 520ST 4MB. Falcon would be nice. Can the 16-bit bus be addressed with an accelerator? Surely not cheaply. There will be new batch of CT63 accelerators: http://www.atari-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=28023 btw here you have one on ebay (1 day left): http://www.ebay.de/itm/Atari-Falcon-030-4MB-Speicher-80MB-HDD-mit-installierter-Software-Buchern-/141862590601?hash=item2107ab5889 Edited January 2, 2016 by calimero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitaflo Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 You will be very lucky to find one on ebay for less than $700 these days. They don't get listed often and demand is high. Expect somewhere closer to $1,000 if it's in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I think mine was around $800 USD, and I got it last month from someone on Amibay. Had to wait a while so he could get a hold of a US PSU and build a VGA cable, but I got it and it works great (have some Math Co-processors on the way now as well, along with a NetUSBee for it.) But it seems that if you're in the US like I am, you pretty much are going to end up having to source one from across the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struisvogel Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I've got one for sale actually. It's a PAL version, but I also have a VGA cable and -monitor for it, and lots of extra's (part ST, part Falcon or both), all in box. I also have some pictures of all of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I've been wondering lately if I really NEED a Falcon for anything ST related? My STe has -4mb ram, so can play many cool demo's and games -Highest game compatibility -Stereo out -extra Joystick ports I'm just not sure what i'd do with the extra capabilities of the Falcon that would warrant the price, and there are a few compatibility issues with games too that make me think the STe may be all I need. So I ask, what can you do on a Falcon that kicks so much ass and can't be done on other tuned up ST machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 To be honest, dropping $500ish on a Falcon seems a bit extreme unless you're a diehard collector. Yes, the Falcon does have the DSP, 640x480 in color, more colors on the screen, and more RAM which allows you to run a better OS...but I think my money would be better spent elsewhere. Of course, if you're interesting in using this old system for daily use, want to code the games & demos for one of the most capable systems in the ST lines, or just want collector bragging rights, then get yourself a Falcon with 14 megs. It's definitely a gem in my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struisvogel Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hmm, I have always loved my Falcon to be honest. But, then again, I had an Amiga 500 and never really used a ST before I bought the Falcon, so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwinslow Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I have a serious lust for Falcons for some reason. At one point I had 6 of them, and 3 CT63's. Still have 2 left, and some odd parts and pieces. I've been forcing myself to sell them, slowly, because I just don't use them and I don't have time to program them the way I would want to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 6 Falcon's?!?!? Dang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd love to get 14 megs for my Falcon but dropping that kinda cash on that little of RAM is hard to come to terms with especially when I haven't purchased floppy solutions for my other retro systems. Maybe etching a RAM board myself is a good project. Lots of fun chemicals to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Had a Falcon from '92-'99. Wife got pregnant so the Falcon was sold to help financially during her maternity leave. I love the kid, but boy did I regret selling the Falcon. A couple of years back I was able to reacquire a Falcon and I won't part with it willingly again. I really do enjoy it. That being said, if Blake never owned a Falcon previously, I don't think he'll have the same connection to it. They are not inexpensive and the library of specific Falcon software is far from vast. My love for the Falcon is based on my prior usage and the fact that I had progressed from a 400 to an 800Xl to a 520ST to a 1040STe and then a Falcon. Sure its cool, plays mp3's, has kick ass demos, has a few enhanced games, and has great audio but at the end of the day you do end up using it with quite a bit of standard ST software. I guess I need to know a bit more of Blake's Atari history to determine if I'd recommend the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd love to get 14 megs for my Falcon but dropping that kinda cash on that little of RAM is hard to come to terms with especially when I haven't purchased floppy solutions for my other retro systems. Maybe etching a RAM board myself is a good project. Lots of fun chemicals to work with. I bought a Wizztronics 14Mb update from Best Electronics a couple of years back. I think it was right around $100. Brad included the 16mb SIMM with the purchase, but I don't see the included SIMM listed currently. "The Best" Series Wizztronics 4 / 16 Meg Ram Solderless Plug in Falcon Upgrade Ram Board, uses a Single 72 pin 1 Meg, 4 Meg or 16 Meg "Low Profile" SIMM module (1 Meg or 4 Meg configurations requires one cut and solder joint on the upgrade board only, boards are shipped configured for 16 Meg SIMMs) Because of it Multi layer P.C. board design the Wizztronics 16 Meg Falcon Upgrade board is the same size as the Atari original equipment plug in Falcon ram cards. Typical 10 minute installation time with NO metal cutting or part / component removal required. Compared to most other Falcon Ram Upgrade boards Sip, Dip and 1 Meg SIMM type of Ram on the market, the Wizztronics Falcon Ram Upgrade board uses a single State of the Art 72 pin Micro Channel non composite SIMM, which means less Ram chips, which also means Less connections (Ram chips to SIMM and SIMM to socket) to go bad, Less Total Ram chips also means less Current draw on your Falcon power supply! CB102163 $99.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxman Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My 14MB Falcon memory board is 55 Euro + shipping. The memory chips are assembled to the PCB, this means no additional contact resistance because no Simm-Socket. The adress-/data- etc lines to the chips are much shorter, no problem to use with overclocked Falcons. Only NOS Chips used. (8 pcs) No modification of the metal shield necessary. -> PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 +1 for Lynxman's modules. I have one in my Falcon. It is top quality and he is a nice person to buy from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Expect to pay $800+ for one, and they can do NTSC or PAL no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Payne Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 What would shipping be to Seattle, WA, USA, Earth? My 14MB Falcon memory board is 55 Euro + shipping. The memory chips are assembled to the PCB, this means no additional contact resistance because no Simm-Socket. The adress-/data- etc lines to the chips are much shorter, no problem to use with overclocked Falcons. Only NOS Chips used. (8 pcs) No modification of the metal shield necessary. -> PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I ordered one from Lynxman as well, it sits happily in my Falcon It ended up being about 10€ for shipping to Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxman Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 HI, yes, 10€ additional to USA -> total 65 € Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I've got Atari STs and Amiga's in my past and in my computer room, but I've been more of an Amiga guy. I'm loving the Falcon scenedemo releases though. I kinda want one. How hard is it to find a Falcon and how much do they usually go for? I see none on eBay right now. Thanks. My 520ST: http://www.bytecellar.com/2007/06/17/my_atari_520st/ I see one on ebay now. (not mine) http://www.ebay.com/itm/291681068964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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