Tempest Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I have a 130XE but I can't seem to turn it on. The power switch seems 'stuck' for lack of a better term. Actually it doesn't seem to want to push in or 'click' into the on position. It's like whatever mechanism it is trying to push in is frozen. I opened it up (pics coming in a sec) but I don't see anything wrong with the switch mechanism except that the plastic toggle seems loose (probably from all that forced pushing). Any ideas? I don't want to force this thing much harder for fear of breaking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Does it free up when not in the case? Sometimes they sit against the plastic. Also Try electronics wash, or a little rubbing alcohol. Check the metal cover and bend back if you free it up. Edited October 10, 2017 by Paul Westphal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 No, it's kind of loose in the case. I tried contact cleaner but that didn't work. What metal cover are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddtmw Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 EBay! https://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-5x-Atari-520-ST-600-800-1200-XL-65-130-XE-1050-computer-console-power-switch-/162071469229?hash=item25bc365cad%3Ag%3A6ksAAOSwJQdXDTu-&_trkparms=pageci%253A457f96d6-ad5e-11e7-9e23-74dbd18000d2%257Cparentrq%253A03ffa40a15f0ab6ab3fdf614fffd45b2%257Ciid%253A1 Pop one of these in (a little solder never hurt anyone!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 toddmw beat me to it, but I second the e-bay listing. I bought one of those exact packs of switches to replace a 130XE power switch that was stubbornly stuck. I just soldered the leads together in the mean time until I received the switches so it was 'Always On' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 Ok there may be something off with mine then. Here are some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 You'll have to disassemble it if you want to get the contact cleaner inside where it can do some good. The rocker comes off by prying the metal tabs apart and under the rocker will be a pin that goes into a spring loaded ball socket. Use a small pair of needle nose pliers on the pin and push it in. If it does not move then use the pliers as a small hammer and make it move in carefully. Once the ball is away from the socket that's when you shoot the contact cleaner past the sealing ball and it can get inside the switch where it can go to work. Gently work the pin as if you were trying to flop it as the rocker does and eventually it will begin to loosen up. Provided you haven't ruined the rocker by pressing too hard, you just put it back together and start using it. Otherwise, time to buy a replacement. I've posted this procedure before, a search should have turned up one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter44102 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I fixed two of these stuck 130xe switches. Desoldered the old ones and put new ones in. Some guy on ebay UK was selling the switches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm still confused as to what is actually wrong with my unit. Is it that the metal part of the switch (the part that the plastic rocker encases) has come detached from the plastic and stuck to the contact somehow? If so do I need to pry it apart somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/c-k/7101J1AV2QE2/CKN2011-ND/272375 if I had to guess its rusted or bent out of whack Edited October 10, 2017 by Osgeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 So yeah it looks like I have to try and pry it apart or something. That metal piece should be with the plastic rocker part from what I can tell. I can try and take a side picture tonight just to be sure before I try and pry apart something that shouldn't be. How hard is it to replace the switch? If it's just those three solder points then I can probably do it. Otherwise I might just sell it to someone who is willing to do it as I really don't need this 130XE anyway. I just wanted to verify it was working before selling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I had the same problem with the power switch on a 800XL the other day....Indeed, you have to re-seat the plastic over the metal part of the switch.....I don't know how....but by fiddling with it I managed to do this....I had the PCB out of the case though...makes it a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) And yea it's just those 3 solder points Also you can jumper the switch just to see if the machine fires up its only 5 volts tween one of the outer pins and the middle pin Edited October 10, 2017 by Osgeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 10, 2017 Author Share Posted October 10, 2017 I had the same problem with the power switch on a 800XL the other day....Indeed, you have to re-seat the plastic over the metal part of the switch.....I don't know how....but by fiddling with it I managed to do this....I had the PCB out of the case though...makes it a lot easier. Ok then I'll try that then. I'll have to take the board out to do it though. Should I try and 'pry' the metal part of the switch apart? is it stuck to the red part or is that how it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 No AFAIK the red part and the metal can't be separated but the brown plastic can....and that's what you need to re-seat....I carefully pried the metal "wings" where the plastic "clicks" between open but very carefully and only like 1 mm. or so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1050 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Level42 is on the right track, the plastic rocker just snaps onto the switch and is held in place by two metal wings with holes in them to engage the rocker axles. Pry up one wing and then carefully get the other done while losing no ground with the first wing. Definitely have to hold your tongue just right. Under that will be the actuating pin which is just a very short toggle handle on a normally normal switch. Push that inward to get the ball socket to unseat and get your WD-40 or contact cleaner in behind the ball. It's just dried out inside and the ball won't rotate in it's socket anymore. It's sort of glued in there by time. You can't do any of this with the board still in the case. Red part of the switch is crimped onto the face plate of the switch, but that approach from the back of the switch will involve spring loaded parts going everywhere and probably not very good odds that you can get them all back inside in the proper manner that it works afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Everything 1050 said but absolutely NO WD40 !!!! In my case the switch was no problem, not dried or anything ....it was merely the fact that I had to get the PCB back in the plastic bottom plate which seemed to go a lot less easy than the 600XL's I'm used to. The monitor jack seems to sit pretty high compared to it's hole in the case but I guess it's always been that way as all other connectors and the channel switch sit fine. I can also plug in the monitor connector without problems so I guess it was always like that on this machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Looks like I'll have to take the board out of the case to do this. That's kind of tricky since it has two user added switches on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I have switches on the back of my 65xe (which its a pal so its a 130 board) and I find I can slide it just a little forward to clear the switches ... hopefully you have enough slack on the wires though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafivehole Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I just inherited this 130XE... I think I'll just replace the switch all together. Is the UK guy on eBay the only source for us people in the US? Thank you, Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Those switches are standard, nothing special about them, saw them on sale at RS online f.i. But the price the U.K. Ebay seller asks is better Edited October 22, 2017 by Level42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I just inherited this 130XE... I think I'll just replace the switch all together. Is the UK guy on eBay the only source for us people in the US? Thank you, Roger i also linked to them from digikey, its a standard C&K Switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafivehole Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Here's the culprit... the switch was completely inoperable. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Now click back the plastic piece and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafivehole Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Nope, the metal toggle on the switch will not move at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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