Albert Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Quite honestly though - the Tramiels don't care about the legacy of Atari or any history involved with it. They care about it as a footnote in their financial/corporate history, or in the case of Sam - in his accomplishments while at Atari Corp. But anything beyond that - the fact that they don't care can really shows a lack of desire to hide anything as well. That may be true, but they are pretty damn cool looking prizes and the sword would look mighty impressive hanging above your mantel, regardless of its origins. Next time a group of former Atari employees is invited to Jack's house, someone needs to take a camera. ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Quite honestly though - the Tramiels don't care about the legacy of Atari or any history involved with it. They care about it as a footnote in their financial/corporate history, or in the case of Sam - in his accomplishments while at Atari Corp. But anything beyond that - the fact that they don't care can really shows a lack of desire to hide anything as well. That may be true, but they are pretty damn cool looking prizes and the sword would look mighty impressive hanging above your mantel, regardless of its origins. Next time a group of former Atari employees is invited to Jack's house, someone needs to take a camera. ..Al Very true, plenty of good spy camera equipment out there. And I think the sword would look cool hanging anywhere. By the way, I know where your forum icon (the building) came from - by damned if that doesn't look a lot like the main building (Wilson Hall) at Fermilab in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 By the way, I know where your forum icon (the building) came from - by damned if that doesn't look a lot like the main building (Wilson Hall) at Fermilab in Illinois. Cool looking building! My guess is that for the Atari Force comics they simply designed a building based around the Atari logo, and that there are bound to be *some* buildings in the real world that somewhat resemble it. Maybe it just needs a coat of red paint. ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I can confirm of multiple people being shown the prizes at a get together at Jack Tramiels house 6 years ago. But how many? I've always wondered what happened with Waterworld, since my brother and I were in -- but didn't pass -- the first tier of winners; I've always wondered if the tiebreaker winners got anything. I know there was a lawsuit, and had heard they all got paid off with money instead of prizes, but never heard for sure... So, does Jack have just the Airworld prize and the final sword, or does he have the Waterworld prize too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Tramiel has his paws around the remaining three. I'd like to get conformation of that. Has anyone actually seen the treasures in his possession or is this just one of those urban legends? If he really does have them, you'd think that he would have melted them down or sold them off by now. Something tells me that Atari history doesn't mean much to him. Tempest Hi Matt, Yes, a friend of mine, Hans Martin is close friends with Jack and he saw at his home the SwordQuest Sword on Jacks mantle and also what he believed might've been the Knowledge stone, but he wasn't 100% sure on that, just the sword. Curt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 There you go! Curt states he knows of at least one individual who has seen at least the Sword proudly displayed on Jack's mantel. The other treasures can't be that far behind. Someone mentioned how the value of the gold etc in them has actually decreased in value since they were made in 84. HELLO!!!...These pieces are worth a helluva lot more than they were in 84. Not in troy value...but in historical value above all else. You can't sit there and tell me that if a person had the money and that if Jack suddenly decided to sell the sword that someone somewhere wouldn't cough up the bucks just to have it themselves?! I know that even if I had a million bucks to blow..and jack suddently stated he would let the sword go for a million bucks..I would be one of the first in line for it. However, I haven't a million or anywhere near that...so It will be a very long wait for me. But to sit there and state "Oh the sword isn't worth what it was in 84..." is just ridiculous. We all know that sword is worth well more than the $50,000 it was supposed to represent back in 84. I still stand by and state the frickin things should be in a museum and not in the hands of a private collector. A collector whom really didn't give a rats ass care in the world about the Atari legacy and name or the industry it started and in addition could just sell it to a Hard drive company in the end...ugh. Off my soap box... NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 There you go! Curt states he knows of at least one individual who has seen at least the Sword proudly displayed on Jack's mantel. The other treasures can't be that far behind. Off my soap box... NEXT! Well if Curt can now confirm a 3rd party sighting it must be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Well if Curt can now confirm a 3rd party sighting it must be true Curt has alot of credibility around here, unlike some other people... Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Well if Curt can now confirm a 3rd party sighting it must be true Curt has alot of credibility around here, unlike some other people... Tempest Why not spit out exactly what your trying to say Tempest? Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Why not spit out exactly what your trying to say Tempest? My my aren't we being a bit defensive? Got a guilty conscious or something? Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Someone mentioned how the value of the gold etc in them has actually decreased in value since they were made in 84. HELLO!!!...These pieces are worth a helluva lot more than they were in 84. Not in troy value...but in historical value above all else. You can't sit there and tell me that if a person had the money and that if Jack suddenly decided to sell the sword that someone somewhere wouldn't cough up the bucks just to have it themselves?! I know that even if I had a million bucks to blow..and jack suddently stated he would let the sword go for a million bucks..I would be one of the first in line for it. However, I haven't a million or anywhere near that...so It will be a very long wait for me. But to sit there and state "Oh the sword isn't worth what it was in 84..." is just ridiculous. We all know that sword is worth well more than the $50,000 it was supposed to represent back in 84. That someone was me. But I also made it rather clear in the same post that, because of its history and mystique, I thought the sword was worth far more today than its weight in gold. So... HELLO!!! right back atcha. I threw out a figure of $1/4 million. In retrospect, I'm thinking maybe that was a little too high. Then again, you never can be sure how much a one-of-a-kind item can go for if two or more well heeled collectors get into a drooling match. But a million dollars?! Sheesh! Maybe if the sword came with J.T.'s severed head... Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Maybe if the sword came with J.T.'s severed head... Wow! There's a statment... Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Maybe if the sword came with J.T.'s severed head... Ben "Ahh! You got a 'head-sword'... It's filled with.. 'heady' goodness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Why not spit out exactly what your trying to say Tempest? My my aren't we being a bit defensive? Got a guilty conscious or something? Tempest I was defensive, really? What the hell would I have a guilty conscious for Tempest? I'll give you an oppertunity to explain yourself before I blast you with both barrels. Sounds to me like you were fed a line of shit by one of your new cronies. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 What the hell would I have a guilty conscious for Tempest? I'll give you an oppertunity to explain yourself before I blast you with both barrels. Sounds to me like you were fed a line of shit by one of your new cronies. Please, enough of this crap. Do you have to attack Curt every chance you get and derail thread after thread? ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Where did I attack Curt? So if your not kissing his ass as the Atari God your attacking him? Get real Albert and AA moderators. jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Tempest call you when the heat started? It only took you 4 minutes to jump in. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I was defensive, really? Yes Sounds to me like you were fed a line of shit by one of your new cronies. I have no idea what you're talking about Jerry... Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Where did I attack Curt? You have taken several opportunities to take jabs at Curt in our forums here and frankly I'm getting tired of it. We all know you hate Curt, we don't need to be reminded about it every chance you get. So if your not kissing his ass as the Atari God your attacking him? Get real Albert and AA moderators. How about if you don't have anything nice to say about someone you talk to them privately rather than airing dirty laundry in a public forum? These messages are not contributing in a positive way to discussions, if you want a flame war with Curt go look for it elsewhere. ..Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 By the way, I know where your forum icon (the building) came from - by damned if that doesn't look a lot like the main building (Wilson Hall) at Fermilab in Illinois. Cool looking building! My guess is that for the Atari Force comics they simply designed a building based around the Atari logo, and that there are bound to be *some* buildings in the real world that somewhat resemble it. Maybe it just needs a coat of red paint. I wonder if The Company Formerly Known As Infogrames would design a new building in the shape of the Atari logo? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Maybe if the sword came with J.T.'s severed head... Ben For some STRANGE reason it wouldn't suprise me in the least if I saw on the news that an Atari collector had broken into Tramiel's house, stolen the sword, and beheaded him with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemaster_ca_2003 Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Maybe if the sword came with J.T.'s severed head... Ben For some STRANGE reason it wouldn't suprise me in the least if I saw on the news that an Atari collector had broken into Tramiel's house, stolen the sword, and beheaded him with it. why are people uttering death threats to Jack Trammel. I know he ruined atari but that is no reason to kill him. alright i do wish for him to have bad luck for the rest of his life but i don't want him dead untill he has to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 why are people uttering death threats to Jack Trammel. I know he ruined atari but that is no reason to kill him. alright i do wish for him to have bad luck for the rest of his life but i don't want him dead untill he has to die. No, no. You've got me all wrong. I wasn't uttering a death threat at all. I was merely speculating on how the value of the sword might be enhanced if it were responsible for the death of Jack Tramiel. It would be so satisfying an irony if the man who symbolically decapitated the empire he once led should suffer the same fate -- especially if his demise came from the ghost of Atari itself, the holy grail Grand Prize of Swordquest! He who lives by the purloined sword dies by the sword. It is the stuff of which legends are made. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Rogue Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I still stand by and state the frickin things should be in a museum and not in the hands of a private collector. A collector whom really didn't give a rats ass care in the world about the Atari legacy and name or the industry it started and in addition could just sell it to a Hard drive company in the end...ugh. Off my soap box... NEXT! A museum? You really live in your own little world. I doubt any of the general populace even knows what the Swordquest competition was let alone remember it. Take the even smaller percentage that know the details about it and the prizes "dissapearing", and whittle that down to those that even care. I doubt there'd be a museum that would even begin to care about housing something from the Franklin mint, fine purveyor of collector plates and dolls soon to appear at a Goodwill near you. Tom: "Hey John, where are we setting up the swordquest exhibit?" John: "In between Mesopotamian artifacts, and the Tutankhamen exhibit. I can't believe we actually aquired this, it's got to be the rarest in our collection." Tom: "Wasn't it just created for some competition for a video game company about 20 years ago?" John: "Yes, but out of the 10 people in the expidition party we sent to the Tramiel house only one made it out alive. And he was mumbling something about a curse. Something about Jack Tramiel threatening to market him as his next video game console. And we all know what a quick but horrible death that would have been....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitfall Harry Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I doubt there'd be a museum that would even begin to care about housing... <> You doubt there'd be a museum that cared because you're not thinking it through. Obviously the Swordquest prizes wouldn't turn up in the Smithsonian or any museum dedicated to cultural or anthropological artifacts. But the prizes would make a prime exhibit in an Atari Museum. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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