Wizard of Wor - How IS the 5200 version?

[BIGHMW]

10 minutes ago, johnnywc said:

I'm a huge fan of the 8-bit version of Wizard of Wor; my brothers and I played it on the 800 for many hours and it was the main reason why I decided to update the 2600 version.   I would welcome an updated 8-bit version too!   

....and may that 8-bit version become available for the 5200 as well!!!

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Here is a side by side comparison.

 

 

[BIGHMW]

Here @TIX is the OG 8-bit version, let's see what you can do with it, @johnnywc and the entire 5200 community can't wait to get our hands on an improved version (at least on rom) of the 8-bit (5200) version of WoW   You and @playsoft did such an incredible job with Moon Patrol Redux, let's see some of that same magic here!!!

Wizard Of Wor.bin

Edited October 3, 2020 by BIGHMW
spelling error

[+Cafeman]

On 10/1/2020 at 12:07 PM, TIX said:

I have to admit I'm completely clueless as to how I can export the character set from a game, in order to load it into an editor  ?

 

 

I never tried it, but I imagine you would have to use an emulator like Altirra. 

[kiwilove]

1 hour ago, BIGHMW said:

Here @TIX is the OG 8-bit version, let's see what you can do with it, @johnnywc and the entire 5200 community can't wait to get our hands on an improved version (at least on rom) of the 8-bit (5200) version of WoW   You and @playsoft did such an incredible job with Moon Patrol Redux, let's see some of that same magic here!!!

Wizard Of Wor.bin 32 kB · 2 downloads

Nope - I think you are asking too much.  From what I remember of Wizard of Wor is that it uses a low resolution - and you're asking the hacker/programmer to change the graphics mode to something of higher res (with more colors) to make it look far better.  This is no simple hack to do - but I'm no programmer but my guess is - this is unrealistic - an impossible task.

 

Of course it can be done better (say with a lot more animation going on) - but there's a whole lot of work involved in doing so.  I haven't seen the coin-op to know what that was like?

 

Harvey

[TIX]

9 hours ago, BIGHMW said:

Here @TIX is the OG 8-bit version, let's see what you can do with it, @johnnywc and the entire 5200 community can't wait to get our hands on an improved version (at least on rom) of the 8-bit (5200) version of WoW   You and @playsoft did such an incredible job with Moon Patrol Redux, let's see some of that same magic here!!!

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hehe, don't get your hopes up..

 

I'm just an artist, I can work my way around redrawing and hacking-in sprites/players/missiles with good old 'hack-o-matic'.

But when it comes to playfield hacking, I'm useless without a coders help..

I spend a couple of hours yesterday searching the rom with 'omnivore' (I turned the bitmap Display to Antic D by @Cafeman's suggestion),

sadly I haven't found anything resembling the monsters.

 

So until a coder steps in, or I discover a better tool, I put this down the queue.

 

[TIX]

On 9/30/2020 at 9:28 PM, Dutchman2000 said:

Yes.

share ?

[TIX]

 

>Wizard Of WOR fresh sprite set !<

[+MrFish]

On 10/4/2020 at 5:08 AM, TIX said:

hehe, don't get your hopes up..

 

I'm just an artist, I can work my way around redrawing and hacking-in sprites/players/missiles with good old 'hack-o-matic'.

But when it comes to playfield hacking, I'm useless without a coders help..

I spend a couple of hours yesterday searching the rom with 'omnivore' (I turned the bitmap Display to Antic D by @Cafeman's suggestion),

sadly I haven't found anything resembling the monsters.

 

So until a coder steps in, or I discover a better tool, I put this down the queue.

 

I just had a look at the 8-bit computer version ROM in Omnivore.

You're using the right view, except it's easier to see if you make the byte width = 2, since each sprite is 2 bytes (4 pixels) wide.

When doing that, you end up with this starting at $3C9A.

 

 

Having a look at the 5200 version, you end up with the same thing at $7CB3, but the sprite data doesn't line up like the 8-bit version; basically because the beginning of the sprite data just happens to fall in the file/ROM on an uneven byte number. I'm not sure if Omnivore has a way to shift the view of the bytes to accommodate (the ability ought to be added if it doesn't exist). I couldn't see how to do it in a quick scan of the menus, though.

 

Anyway, at least that gives you a starting point.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by MrFish

[+MrFish]

1 hour ago, MrFish said:

since each sprite is 2 bytes (4 pixels) wide.

 

Correction there, I meant to say 8 pixels wide. Too late to edit my post now...

 

[TIX]

thanks man,

I guess the .xex I was looking was compressed or something, the .rom from Atarimania was as your example..

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by TIX