figgler Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 Can anyone give me an explanation as to why Solaris and Star Raiders have the same picturet on the cartridge and box? Please tell me it's something cool, like Soalris was intended as a sequel. Please tell me it's not the cost-cut, cash-grab it looks like to me. Before I gave the ROMS a spin, I thought they were the same friggin game! Kinda like a Combat/Tank-Plus thing. What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 I did not notice that. Holy poo! My guess is that we are looking at the cheap "red label" days during the crash, when quality was pretty much in the crapper for all production values on the games (save for the games themselves which are top notch for Atari). How odd that I never caught that. Good eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 I thought the Red Labels came in around '86 -- rather a long time after the crash As to why the same -- well Solaris is the true successor to the 400/800 game StarRaiders, same guy made 'em both, so that fits... Oh and JT and co were CHEAP, so that fits too! sTeVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhindle The Red Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 From the manual: The Zylons are back Sounds like an official sequel to me! And no George Clooney in sight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 I can't believe I never noticed that before... Just when you think the Tramiel years couldn't have been painted any worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 Zylons? Arrrr! Lemme at 'em! Anyway, this is nothing new. The Gates of Zendocon cover is just the 2600 Asteroids cover flipped upside down. http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?Soft...07&BoxStyleID=2 http://www.atariage.com/box_page.html?Soft...0&BoxStyleID=76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 So I guess my Mental Kombat label was really done in the spirit of Atari after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgler Posted August 8, 2003 Author Share Posted August 8, 2003 The Zylons are backSounds like an official sequel to me! I checked in the Star Raiders book and the baddies are called Krylons. I guess it's not supposed to be a sequel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhindle The Red Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I checked in the Star Raiders book and the baddies are called Krylons. I guess it's not supposed to be a sequel Odd. In the "Star Raiders" graphic novel, they are Zylons. Both names were used in the "Atari Force" comics. I'm sure "Zylons" was used in one of the "Star Raiders" instructions. Maybe it was the 8-Bit versions. Regardless, Solaris clearly seems to be set in the "Atari Force" universe, like Star Raiders. And not like Clooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 :D You made me run over to IMDB to verify that Solaris was produced by 20th Century Fox. Awesome looking label. Here is an HTML version of the Star Raiders Manual for anyone who wants to look at it. Yeah, yeah, as soon as I finish with these Lynx poster manuals and the Forum conversion, I'll work to get more 2600 manual scans online. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edit_5 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I love that label Red, almost wants to make me say "I'm affraid Dave" lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Wrong movie, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I checked in the Star Raiders book and the baddies are called Krylons. I guess it's not supposed to be a sequel Odd. In the "Star Raiders" graphic novel, they are Zylons. Both names were used in the "Atari Force" comics. I'm sure "Zylons" was used in one of the "Star Raiders" instructions. Maybe it was the 8-Bit versions. Regardless, Solaris clearly seems to be set in the "Atari Force" universe, like Star Raiders. And not like Clooney. lol 'one player using existentialism' is that some custom controller that comes with the game, or simply a new way of thinking about just what exactly constitues your 'joy stick' ? .... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Apparently we are having issues with our memories and perceptions of Solaris and Star Raiders vs. other's memories and perceptions. ...and just what is "reality" anyway? Can we really say for certain that it wasn't the Nylons attacking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Zycroids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I love that label Red, almost wants to make me say "I'm affraid Dave" lol...Wrong movie, dude. (true, but you must admit, that clooney pic does remind one of 2k1,) "MY God! It's Full Of Clooney!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edit_5 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Wrong movie, dude. I know, but it's very reminiscent of 2001, James Cameron ripping Stanley Kubrick off again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Wrong movie, dude. I know, but it's very reminiscent of 2001, James Cameron ripping Stanley Kubrick off again... Are you trolling? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edit_5 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 No, why would you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 because he is a lost, bad, monkey. you are a bad monkey, mojojojo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I doubt Cameron could exude much influence in the 2-3 hours Soderberg spent making this film... I asked if your were trolling because it seemed as if you intentionally mentioned Cameron, rather than the Soderberg, as though it were to provoke a response like the one I made. That, and what Gojira said.. I am bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edit_5 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 I doubt Cameron could exude much influence in the 2-3 hours Soderberg spent making this film... Bwahahaha I like that, that was good. JC's ok in my book, at least he did us all a favour and didn't do T3, I read some stuff on AICN about Jimbo being a major pain in the ass all the way through the shoot of Solaris. Have a Banana and chill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 (true, but you must admit, that clooney pic does remind one of 2k1,) Yah, very much so. I finally rented Solaris last weekend, and was dismayed to find that it's nothing more than a chick flick in space. Went in expecting an exploration of the concepts of self, identity, and reality... and instead got Clooney's bum. Bah. I need to track down the novel now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 Look for the original 1972 Russian version. It's subtitled, so you can watch it on FF in half the time & you wont miss anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 The book was an interesting read, to say the least. It really makes you wonder, what exactly constitutes "human". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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