Deep Throat for the VCS 2600

[khryssun]

Here is the scan of an advertisement I found in a 1983 video games magazine about the game deep throat.

 

The image is now 24 bits with smaller size ! Thanks to Artlover and ZylonBane

 

 

It's obvious the game box displayed is a mok-up.

 

Does someone got some infos about this title/publisher ?

 

I have found nothing. It seems to have been unreleased (another prototype to be found by tempest ? )

 

Any comment / suggestions ?

[Brad2600]

So it was supposed to be a dirty game?

 

I can't think of anythinb better than controlling a pixellated Linda Lovelace and her raunchy exploits.

[Godzilla]

where's ne1 and his wankin avatar to get all excited aboot this game? wonder if it became beat n eat em or something similar....

[NE146]

Oooooh Zilla you awakened the wanking spirit! HERE I CUM BABY!!! err come...

 

Let's see.. how can you have a Deep Throat videogame. Maybe you can just take Beat em and Eat em and move the chicks up far enough to the wanker sprite.. and then.. DEEP THROAT!

 

I'm also still waiting for that port of the movie TABOO

[King Atari]

Wow, I can't believe anyone would even attempt to make a video game based on that film. Couldn't have been any worse than Custer's Revenge, though.

[JB]

Wow, I can't believe anyone would even attempt to make a video game based on that film. Couldn't have been any worse than Custer's Revenge, though.

But Custer's Revenge was educational. It taught us more about a part of US/indian relations that's almost always neglected in the history books.

[NovaXpress]

This game is just BEGGING for some mock-up screens.

 

Perhaps one could hack Placque Attack (say that out loud - it's fun) and turn the toothpaste tube into a phallus. You would be saving Linda Lovelace's clitoris from evil prn producers perhaps? Or the food could be turned into spooge. It all works.

 

I'd like to see that ad's whole page. Is this Deep Throat game supposed to be linked with those Wizard titles? Maybe there's a clue there. Deep Throat would have made a nice companion to Flesh Gordon.

[sku_u]

That would have been a seriously demented game. I'm surprised Wizard even considered it.

 

Maybe Debbie Does Dallas would have been a better choice. That could have probably been a hack version of X-Man.

[Artlover]

I reduce the image colors to 256 to keep the image size small.

 

Any comment / suggestions ?

 

I have a comment.

 

Use JPeG instead. Would have been about 7-8x smaller then that BMP, and kept all the color to boot.

[khryssun]

Well, the original JPG file I had was 846 ko, so I reduce the colors to 256 then I reconverted the picture to jpeg (which automatically upgrade the file color depth encoding but only using the 256 colors I had) so I get this 200 k file.

 

Thanks for your suggestion

[AtariDude]

If the game had been made, what do you think would have been its dollar value today given the dollar value of some other adult 2600 games? Do you feel it would cost more or less than say Beat Em and Eat Em or Custer's Revenge, etc.

[rolenta]

It's hard to judge how much the game would be worth if it had been made. The content doesn't really have anything to do with the value of the game. It's the scarcity of the game that matters.

[ZylonBane]

Well, the original JPG file I had was 846 ko, so I reduce the colors to 256 then I reconverted the picture to jpeg (which automatically upgrade the file color depth encoding but only using the 256 colors I had) so I get this 200 k file.

It doesn't work that way. JPEG doesn't even recognize the concept of a palette. It divides an image into 8x8 cells and attempts to approximate the contents of each cell with a series of cosine transforms (gross oversimplification). Long story short, JPEG is most effective with smooth color transitions, so by reducing to 256 colors you actually made things harder for the JPEG compression algorithm.

 

The only reason the new file is 200K instead of 846K is because you saved it at a lower quality setting than the original.

[Artlover]

Right.

 

Jpegs should pretty much only be used with 24bit color image sources.

 

Do you still have the original 24bit color BMP? Try converting that to Jpeg using a quality setting of 70% or so. The file should end up being around 50-60k or so and look just as good.

[davidnewman]

 

or at least one you coulda bought a beer for at the bar...

[MikeMika]

Someone should speak to John Harris regarding Deep Throat and, get this, the ALTERNATE versions of Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I believe Halloween. If I recall correctly, some folks he had been working with were working on entirely different versions of the same games, and they may have had a hand in the Deep Throat game, too. It was a couple years ago, but it would be nice to have John set the record straight. I think Flesh Gordon was part of it, too.

 

Mike

[moycon]

Someone should speak to John Harris regarding Deep Throat and, get this, the ALTERNATE versions of Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I believe Halloween. If I recall correctly, some folks he had been working with were working on entirely different versions of the same games, and they may have had a hand in the Deep Throat game, too. It was a couple years ago, but it would be nice to have John set the record straight. I think Flesh Gordon was part of it, too.

 

Mike

 

Awesome, The Wizard games have always interested me...Ever since I was a lad and saw the ad's for TCM and Halloween in the back of Fangoria magazines. I also recall the ad for Flesh Gordon and have always wondered what gameplay was like. It seems to me Ive seen an alternate screenshot of TCM before, But not Halloween. Does anyone keep in touch with John Harris ?

[khryssun]

ZylonBane wrote

The only reason the new file is 200K instead of 846K is because you saved it at a lower quality setting than the original.

 

Well, I haven't saved the file in a lower quality, I let it in "best quality" (ratio 1) (Well, you make me doubt, I'll test this procedure again ). I just reduced the color depth to 8 bits before save it again in jpeg format which automatically increased the depth.

 

Anyway thanks for your infos about how jpeg format works

[khryssun]

Right.  

 

Jpegs should pretty much only be used with 24bit color image sources.  

 

Do you still have the original 24bit color BMP? Try converting that to Jpeg using a quality setting of 70% or so. The file should end up being around 50-60k or so and look just as good.

 

I scan it again and use a good ratio to reduce the file size to 89 ko and keep a nice display.

 

Thanks

[inextremis staple]

Wasn't the alternate TCM supposed to be you hunting down Leatherface? I think I heard there was one where you were the sherriff or something and you had to stop him before he killed. I haven't heard anything about an alternate Halloween though.

 

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[NovaXpress]

The alternate version:

http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/t...ainsawproto.htm

 

Doesn't look good at all, more like 2600 programming practice. I've never heard rumors of an alternate Halloween. There have never been any rumors of Flesh Gordon actually existing beyond concept art either as far as I've seen. Deep Throat looks like it didn't even make it to the concept art stage. That's a scraped-together box design like the old Coleco ads where it was all black with just the game logo.

[sly]

It would not suprise me if the Proto Box existed because I have the Rare Black Halloween Proto Box shown in the article. I have also seen the Black Proto Chainsaw Massacre before.

 

It would be great if one turned up sometime.

[thefrogger]

The alternate version:

There have never been any rumors of Flesh Gordon actually existing beyond concept art either as far as I've seen.

 

At one point, Sierra On-Line was doing Flesh Gordon and Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but I don't know the details of the business side of things, nor what happened to the later stages of the products. I just did some advising on the kernel for the games.

 

The only sequence I remember from Flesh Gordon, (and perhaps it was the only sequence even completed), had your character (Flesh) being chased around the screen by Prince Precious. If he caught you, the game displayed a rather graphic (by 2600 standards) animation of Flesh being buggered, and the caption, "Ugh, my ass!" beneath it. A bit too anatomically correct to even be shipable, I suspect.

 

I dug around my old 2600 development disks, and do not appear to have any copies of this.

 

- John Harris

[moycon]

Wow thats the first I heard that Flesh Gordon was even started!!

Hmmm So there may be hope yet a proto will show up.

[rolenta]

I'd like to see that ad's whole page. Is this Deep Throat game supposed to be linked with those Wizard titles? Maybe there's a clue there. Deep Throat would have made a nice companion to Flesh Gordon.

 

I personally do not think that Games People Play and Wizard were associated. I too would like to see the whole page of this ad. My belief is that since it is a French ad, it may have been placed by a distributor that was carrying the Wizard and the forthcoming Game People Play games.