lhfreak Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 The other thread about guilty pleasures got me thinking about this......What games do you NOT care for so much that everyone else thinks is the greatest? Pitfall would be mine.....When it came out, I enjoyed it enough, but soon got bored....I understand and know why it's a classic, but just never got into it as much as anyone else...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liveinabin Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 I agree, Pitfall (and it's sequel) really bored me. I don't understand why anyone likes 'Dodge 'Em' - horrible horrible game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybastard Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Star Raider, Star Master, Star Voyegar all seem like the same dull game to me. I never enjoyed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Adventure bores me greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Adventure and Yar's Revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooterb23 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 Adventure, never liked it. I'm not a big fan of Pitfall II either...I like the original though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted September 13, 2003 Share Posted September 13, 2003 It always saddens me to hear that someone doesn't like Yars' Revenge. On the other hand, I wholeheartedly agree that Star Raiders is a snore-fest. And these days I am feeling the same about Pitfall! as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 I'll chime in with Adventure as well. Never really "did it" for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnewman Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 I have a confession here: I have no idea what the object of the Pitfall games even is... I spent about 7 min. running around the game once, put the game down, and said "Next!!!!" Never liked it, never "got" it. Ah, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailGator Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Adventure and Yar's Revenge. I agree with Adventure being way overrated, but Yar's Revenge is probably one of the best 2600 games I've ever played. My current favorites (in no particular order): Yar's Revenge Asteroids Frostbite Demon Attack Warlords (best multi-player game ever) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpong Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 Adventure and Yar's Revenge. I concur with these picks, my least favorite 2600 games of all. Adventure suffers from being in the adventure/RPG genre (any game in those genres is by definition worthless, IMO), but it is bad on its own. Yar's is purely a bad game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 My problem with Adventure is, that I never played it back then (same with Yar's Revenge). So I have no fond memories and compared with complex modern (which is unfair, I know) adventure games (which I like) it is IMO really, really lame. Yar's Revenge looks like an below average shooter to me. But I am still not sure, if I might have missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 definately double dragon; being activision, I had such high hopes, especally after seeing how good kung fu master was. I dont get the people here who spend the time and pain to learn to play around the shitty collision detection and then, defend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybastard Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 I have to agree with Double Dragon. It just plain sucks on the VCS. I'm shocked so many people don't like Adventure, I think it's brillant. Yar's Revenge is also a shocker to me, I think it's an amazing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophero Sly Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Pitfall! isn't my game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 yea I thought 2600 adventure and yars were pretty much universally loved. and not just for nostalgic reasons. I mean, there is a reason that pc indenture was so popular and they made yars revenge for the gameboy. These are titles that, even today, people still generally realize kicketh arseth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpong Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 Yars' is so low on my list because it has the most disappointing gameplay of any game I've ever played. That might sound like hyperbole, but it is true. You shoot the thing a few times, run into it, then shoot it with the other thing. Do the same thing ad infinitum. There's nothing the least bit interesting about this play mechanic. I love simple mechanics in games, so it isn't just the simplicity of the game. The task presented by the game isn't entertaining in the least. To present such a dull mechanic in a genre that is typically the most action packed just magnifies its deficiencies. Yars' Revenge was a game that was universally hated by everyone I knew in the early 80s. The same can be said of Adventure. You move around for a while and nothing ever happens. The same can be said of any adventure/RPG game, but it is more apparent in Adventure, having none of the graphic fluff that everybody seems to love these days. There's just nothing appealing about what you do in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madblownaway Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Pacman the ---- used ta drive me nuts and still does and the sounds and like every freakin video game you here in movies or tv has those sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert M Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 RE: Adventure and Pitfall, I think the reputation of these games comes largely from their time of release. I bought both of these games when they were first released, and when I plugged them in I said WoW! They both pushed the 2600 to new limits that had never been seen before. Sure there are games now that make these games look weak, but back then they rocked! - Adventure brought to the table a large world to explore, and randomization to provide more shelf life. - Pitfall had an even larger world (256 unique screens in a 4K cartridge!), and graphics to die for. I mean Pitfall Harry was the very first VCS (and first maybe in consoleland) character to actually animate running beyond the 2 frame twitch walk common to many games, and he had 3 colors! I believe it may have also been one of the first games to use the missle/ball(?) to draw a line on the screen, aka the vine... Not sure on that one. These games raised the bar for games that followed. Many games since have raised the bar higher, but at one time they were the standard benchmark for showcasing the abilities of the VCS. On topic: I don't like VCS Asteroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 I'm very surprized to se so many others agree with my view on Pitfall. Sure it was a revolution, but some very poor decisions were made as far as gameplay. I didn't have the time or interest to map out every level so I could beat the clock. Why not just let us play? I found it all to be very nice looking but completely dull. I got one hundred times the play out of Megamania. The elements of Pitfall were used to much better effect in other games. I like Pitfall II better, but finishing the game can feel like punishing oneself. Damn condors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Player Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 I think Pitfall II is technically brilliant, but it bores me. It was a big mistake to not have the player die but get carried back to the last cross. Too much time is spent just running around getting places. Given the size of the map, there are not enough obstacles to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonicgo Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 I'm sorry, but the only reason I have asteroids was because of the flicker. I know there's a way to take the flicker out, Activision proved it again and again. If anybody could make a non flickering hack, I'd like.... do backflips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Activision designed their games to avoid flicker. That's not hard to do when one is creating an original title. You can't have asteroids flying in all directions on the 2600 without flicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonicgo Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Well, the flicker kinda hurts my eyes. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oesii Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Well I love both Pitfalls and Yar's but I never got into Adventure. Same reason as Thomas, holds no nostalgia for me because I didn't have it back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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