ACML Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I've looked online at Best and they have I.C.s and diodes, but don't see any capacitors listed. Does Brad carry the old OEM capacitors for re-sale? I know new modern caps are the way to go, just curious. In particular, looking for the big 10,000uF cap in the 1200XL (C060603). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) asking Brad would be the thing to do. I don't know how shelf stable such a cap was or is. Capacitors like to be used every so often. Look up reforming capacitors and get some ideas. Edited February 24, 2023 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I suspect NOS 35 year old caps would probably be dried out and fail pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I doubt it, but why in the world would someone want to purchase such a thing? There are just some things that there is absolutely no good reason to order vintage parts for, and capacitors would be at the very top of that list. Not only are there no good reasons to do so, there are many good reasons not to. Here in the states, Digi-Key is your friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZJB Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ACML said: I've looked online at Best and they have I.C.s and diodes, but don't see any capacitors listed. Does Brad carry the old OEM capacitors for re-sale? I know new modern caps are the way to go, just curious. In particular, looking for the big 10,000uF cap in the 1200XL (C060603). You also need to know the lead spacing of your old capacitor. It wouldn't hurt if you also overrated the capacitor by going up to 25V. This one might work if the lead spacing is 7.5mm https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/rubycon/25PX10000MEFC18X35-5/3134179 Edited February 24, 2023 by TZJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 As a modern capacitor is likely to be smaller than the original you could do what the Chinese do with audio grade caps 🙈 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACML Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 The spacing of the OEM (ELNA) 10,000uF is 13.5mm. I bought a modern replacement (2020 CKEM manufacture) and its' lead spacing is only 7.5-8mm. See photos. Shouldn't this be a good replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, ACML said: The spacing of the OEM (ELNA) 10,000uF is 13.5mm. I bought a modern replacement (2020 CKEM manufacture) and its' lead spacing is only 7.5-8mm. See photos. Shouldn't this be a good replacement? Assuming the pre-install, non-cut leads are sufficiently long enough, the spacing really shouldn't matter all that much. You should be able to shape the leads as necessary to make a proper fit, then solder in place. Assuming that it fits, and electrical specs are the same or better, you should have no issues using any modern capacitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZJB Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, ACML said: The spacing of the OEM (ELNA) 10,000uF is 13.5mm. I bought a modern replacement (2020 CKEM manufacture) and its' lead spacing is only 7.5-8mm. See photos. Shouldn't this be a good replacement? The original has 3 leads it seems, the third is for stability. That must be why the lead spacing is so large. The replacement can be made to fit by shaping the wires and will work as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Digi-Key p/n 493-1093-ND - 10,000ufd @ 35v. Lead spacing is .5", same as Atari. Bob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACML Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, bob1200xl said: Digi-Key p/n 493-1093-ND - 10,000ufd @ 35v. Lead spacing is .5", same as Atari. Bob Nice! I just ordered three. They have essentially the same dimensions as the OEM. This should pop (solder) right in nice a neat with 12.5mm spacing, rather than trying to fit the smaller one with 7.5mm spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFire Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 hours ago, bfollowell said: I doubt it, but why in the world would someone want to purchase such a thing? There are just some things that there is absolutely no good reason to order vintage parts for, and capacitors would be at the very top of that list. Not only are there no good reasons to do so, there are many good reasons not to. I agree with you, but I've also seen a handful of non-experts claim that modern capacitors are less durable or have worse performance than vintage caps. As far as I can tell, this is just audiophile-grade superstition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, DragonFire said: I agree with you, but I've also seen a handful of non-experts claim that modern capacitors are less durable or have worse performance than vintage caps. As far as I can tell, this is just audiophile-grade superstition. My thought has always been that electrolytics are designed with a finite life span regardless. But that caps made 30 years ago do seem to have held up a heck of a lot better vs those made during the cap-apocalypse of the 90s. So I would hope that modern replacements today will hold up as long as those from 30+ years ago have held up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Like all things, certain manufacturers are better than others. It isn't the age of bad botched stolen formula caps anymore though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zylon Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Brad sells resistors, diodes, and caps by the roll, if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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